stuartbh
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- 1999 Ford Explorer 4-door
Explorer enthusiasts,
I own a 1999 Ford Explorer that was sold to me with a single key, that key was stolen and I now wish to "zero out" and create a new set of master and spare keys for the car from scratch. I have done quite a bit of reading about PATS and want to be sure I go about this correctly. This is the procedure as best I understand it, can anyone verify I am correct?
STEP 1 - Cutting a physical key
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A friend of mine that is a locksmith (he is located in the East Coast, truck is in the West Coast) said that he can cut me a key for my truck based on the keycode (a 4-5 digit number ending with an X) onto a PATS key that can then be programmed when I am proximate to the truck. He further indicated that the keycode I need is on a white sticker somewhere in the truck and once I locate this keycode and email it to him he can send me 4 keys cut on PATS blanks that will open a door or turn the ignition properly, but not start the engine as they would be un-programmed at that point.
Does anyone know where the sticker he mentioned might be located that indicates this 4-5 digit code ending in X?
STEP 2 - Key Programming
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Since I live in a state that does "smog checks" each year and I like to work on my car myself sometimes, I decided it would be utilitarian for me to acquire an OBD device that can read and clear diagnostic codes as well as be of utility in the instant case for clearing and making new keys for the truck also.
One such device I am consider is this:
http://www.ecutool.com/Ford-VCM-OBD_8129.html#7
If this device is capable of clearing all keys (I sent them an email inquiring as to its PATS capabilities, no response yet), then what procedure would I need to engage in order to create 2 new Master keys and 2 new spare keys so I do not totally screw myself over?
I believe the 1999 Ford Explorer (4-door) has a "model B" PATS system, but I do not know if this is PATS or "PATS II" (I presume based on the truck's model year it is likely NOT "PATS II").
I also read about needing INCODEs and OUTCODEs, are these codes needed for my type of truck and model year?
When are these INCODEs/OUTCODEs needed?
And if they are not relevant to my truck, how would they be relevant to a newer truck if I had one (I don't)?
If I clear out all the master and spare keys, how will this effect the keyless entry code?
Can the keyless entry codes be read out using a OBD device?
Thanks in advance!
Stuart
I own a 1999 Ford Explorer that was sold to me with a single key, that key was stolen and I now wish to "zero out" and create a new set of master and spare keys for the car from scratch. I have done quite a bit of reading about PATS and want to be sure I go about this correctly. This is the procedure as best I understand it, can anyone verify I am correct?
STEP 1 - Cutting a physical key
------------------------------
A friend of mine that is a locksmith (he is located in the East Coast, truck is in the West Coast) said that he can cut me a key for my truck based on the keycode (a 4-5 digit number ending with an X) onto a PATS key that can then be programmed when I am proximate to the truck. He further indicated that the keycode I need is on a white sticker somewhere in the truck and once I locate this keycode and email it to him he can send me 4 keys cut on PATS blanks that will open a door or turn the ignition properly, but not start the engine as they would be un-programmed at that point.
Does anyone know where the sticker he mentioned might be located that indicates this 4-5 digit code ending in X?
STEP 2 - Key Programming
-------------------------
Since I live in a state that does "smog checks" each year and I like to work on my car myself sometimes, I decided it would be utilitarian for me to acquire an OBD device that can read and clear diagnostic codes as well as be of utility in the instant case for clearing and making new keys for the truck also.
One such device I am consider is this:
http://www.ecutool.com/Ford-VCM-OBD_8129.html#7
If this device is capable of clearing all keys (I sent them an email inquiring as to its PATS capabilities, no response yet), then what procedure would I need to engage in order to create 2 new Master keys and 2 new spare keys so I do not totally screw myself over?
I believe the 1999 Ford Explorer (4-door) has a "model B" PATS system, but I do not know if this is PATS or "PATS II" (I presume based on the truck's model year it is likely NOT "PATS II").
I also read about needing INCODEs and OUTCODEs, are these codes needed for my type of truck and model year?
When are these INCODEs/OUTCODEs needed?
And if they are not relevant to my truck, how would they be relevant to a newer truck if I had one (I don't)?
If I clear out all the master and spare keys, how will this effect the keyless entry code?
Can the keyless entry codes be read out using a OBD device?
Thanks in advance!
Stuart