Nah Chad said he had the Trail Grapplers, not the Mud Grapplers, right? The Mud Grapplers have a VERY intense tread pattern and sidewall pattern. I would love to get some and have my trac looking like adas' trac way back in the "Lifted ST's" thread. But yeah they are very expensive, very loud, but they look great! lol. Everyone around here has Nitto Mud Grapplers on their z71's and whatnot.. it's kind of a "thing" for people around here. But the Nitto Trail Grapplers like Chad mentioned are also a pretty sick looking tread pattern, and they have a 295/75 (i think that's right) size or more than like a 33" tire. Also if youre getting into the Nitto scene and I were you, I would go Trail Grappler over Mud Grappler. if youre looking for that aggressive look, but still using it for a daily driver, and also not as much noise.