no no no....ok sorry i wasnt very detailed......the over all balljoint for the ranger was the same size in length, but wasnt in diameter..........you could get it tight and it seemed to fit fine but if you hit it kinda hard the arm would move up and down......the explorer balljoint was a little bit bigger in diameter....you cant tell unless you look at it closely but it was enough to where the ranger joint wouldnt lock into place as good as the explorer one.......get it.......so what we did was around the top and bottom of the ranger joint we layed a weld beed around the circumfrance of it, around it completely and then grinded it down to where it was the exact same size in diameter of the explorer balljoint.........this allowed it to lock into place as good as the explorer joint.....not ghetto or anything like that hart....i swear youre trying to find something wrong with everything i say arent you? wtf is your problem dude? another thing if i had welded it to the spindle why would this be unsafe...lol....it would just be permanent not unsafe.....i dont think you know what you are tlkain about while you are trying to figure out a way to hold me down and from helpin all the others............James, do you understand what i was saying now? sorry for the confusion.....and for the other guy i mean the camber isnt bad when i am layed out on the ground, the toe is off a little bit but the camber isnt that bad at all