TowingExplorer
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- Year, Model & Trim Level
- 2006 Limited V8
I still have an extended warranty on my '06 Ford Explorer. Only 80k miles on it now as it's my secondary vehicle.
I brought it in for some noise which I assumed was a wheel bearing as that's what the sound was last time. Also had soft brakes.
They diagnosed 3 of my 4 wheel bearings were bad! I guess the 4th is the one they replaced last year. Weird that 3 would all go at once like that.
Anyway, my soft brakes they diagnosed as a pair of frozen front calipers. In addition, they said I needed new pads and rotors while they were in there.
Here's a rundown of how this went...
1. I said I would have someone else do the rotors and pads because they wanted nearly $500 which is far too much for me for such an old vehicle.
2. They said they would not do the calipers without doing the pads/rotors because it would be "too unsafe to drive."
3. I offered to have it towed to another shop after they changed the calipers, attempting to save my $100 deductible from becoming two visits.
4. They refused and said I could have another shop do the brakes and bring it back.
5. How can another shop do the pads/rotors if the calipers are frozen, I asked?
6. They can't, they said. <silent evil laugh I think here>
7. I suggested that their frozen calipers caused my pads/rotors to fail.
8. They said my lack of driving it regularly caused the pads/rotors to fail.
9. I said I take it to work 1-2 times a week plus I went to Virginia last fall and Ohio after the New Year, so I disagree.
10. The guy said it had "not being driven all over it." which is clearly nonsense.
So tomorrow I should be picking it up. They've got me over a barrel here as I need it to take the wife and kids to Virginia for vacation beginning this weekend.
I explained that I felt they had me over a barrel because of this and I will have to contact a ford rep. The guy offered me the number.
Any suggestions? I'd consider speaking with a service manager tomorrow, if they're even available, but other than what I said above, what else is there to be said?
IMO, it's a chicken or egg scenario. Either the pads/rotors caused the calipers to seize, in which case I should pay for the calipers too (cringe)... Or the seized calipers caused my pads/rotors to degrade in which case they should pay for them all.
My Father's friends with a sales manager at another dealer (much further away so I did not go there) but he said he'd have gone with me not paying for the pads/rotors because there is no way to know which failed first.
Open to ideas.
I brought it in for some noise which I assumed was a wheel bearing as that's what the sound was last time. Also had soft brakes.
They diagnosed 3 of my 4 wheel bearings were bad! I guess the 4th is the one they replaced last year. Weird that 3 would all go at once like that.
Anyway, my soft brakes they diagnosed as a pair of frozen front calipers. In addition, they said I needed new pads and rotors while they were in there.
Here's a rundown of how this went...
1. I said I would have someone else do the rotors and pads because they wanted nearly $500 which is far too much for me for such an old vehicle.
2. They said they would not do the calipers without doing the pads/rotors because it would be "too unsafe to drive."
3. I offered to have it towed to another shop after they changed the calipers, attempting to save my $100 deductible from becoming two visits.
4. They refused and said I could have another shop do the brakes and bring it back.
5. How can another shop do the pads/rotors if the calipers are frozen, I asked?
6. They can't, they said. <silent evil laugh I think here>
7. I suggested that their frozen calipers caused my pads/rotors to fail.
8. They said my lack of driving it regularly caused the pads/rotors to fail.
9. I said I take it to work 1-2 times a week plus I went to Virginia last fall and Ohio after the New Year, so I disagree.
10. The guy said it had "not being driven all over it." which is clearly nonsense.
So tomorrow I should be picking it up. They've got me over a barrel here as I need it to take the wife and kids to Virginia for vacation beginning this weekend.
I explained that I felt they had me over a barrel because of this and I will have to contact a ford rep. The guy offered me the number.
Any suggestions? I'd consider speaking with a service manager tomorrow, if they're even available, but other than what I said above, what else is there to be said?
IMO, it's a chicken or egg scenario. Either the pads/rotors caused the calipers to seize, in which case I should pay for the calipers too (cringe)... Or the seized calipers caused my pads/rotors to degrade in which case they should pay for them all.
My Father's friends with a sales manager at another dealer (much further away so I did not go there) but he said he'd have gone with me not paying for the pads/rotors because there is no way to know which failed first.
Open to ideas.