help anyone? my wheel snapped off what parts do i need

[jake1018291]

P.S. thank you for showing me that

 

[Turdle]

If you do need the control arm, you can get them for aound 100.00 at rockauto.com. It will have a new ball joint and bushings already pressed into it.

 

[96eb96]

If I am not mistaken, the 2 wheel drive Exporers have the same wheel bearing as the 4 wheel drive Explorers, so I do not think leaving the drive axle out actually did anything to cause it to come apart. I may be mistaken, it has been awhile since I did a wheel bearing on a 2 wheel drive Explorer. With that said, I believe the main culprit of the problem was a bad wheel bearing. The axle just help the junk parts together.

No, they are very different. The 2wd trucks have old school replaceable bearings.

The third gen is another story, they have the same hub for the 2wd and 4wd, but obviously the design is very different...

 

[Hank McGee]

You are correct in the different design, I did not see the year. With that said, I stillo do not believe the axle helps hold the wheel hub in. It is pressed in, if you look at the picture, you can see how bad the bearing looks. I still believe the bearing was bad, and that is why everything came apart.

 

[Turdle]

You are correct in the different design, I did not see the year. With that said, I stillo do not believe the axle helps hold the wheel hub in. It is pressed in, if you look at the picture, you can see how bad the bearing looks. I still believe the bearing was bad, and that is why everything came apart.

Dude, the axle nut torque is what holds the bearing together. This is nothing new. people have broken axle shafts and tried to get out only to break the bearing.

At the least, a stub shaft made from the splined end MUST be bolted to the hub with the spindle nut torque to spec.

Sometimes this spec is not achieved, which will cause premature failure of the bearing, even with the axle in place.

I know for a fact I am 100 percent correct here. Your disinformation will give someone an idea to try. If they do, sudden failure--property damage, injury or even death may occur!!!

 

[FIND]

Agreed^^^

The axle shaft goes THROUGH the bearing. Where do you think the turn-ey spin-ey things happen in the front of a 4wd or AWD vehicle? Those bearings are held in place by the axles that go through them. Sure, the bearings are pressed into the hub, but those bearing can expand, separate or press out of the hub when you apply lateral forces to them, such as when you are turning or even just from the proper alignment of wheels.

 

[SoNic67]

In the pics looked like the shock shaft is bent too...

 

[Hank McGee]

Explain to me what "holds" everything together on....let's say a 2008 2WD Explorer?

The 08 4WD and 2WD use the same front wheel bearing, so what "holds" the 2WD together???

 

[Turdle]

Idunno, this is the 1995-2001 sub forum though--

What does it matter here?

 

[FIND]

Explain to me what "holds" everything together on....let's say a 2008 2WD Explorer?

The 08 4WD and 2WD use the same front wheel bearing, so what "holds" the 2WD together???

A retainer ring

 

[Hank McGee]

Idunno, this is the 1995-2001 sub forum though--

What does it matter here?

Cause it is the same design. 3 bolts through the back of the spindle and the caliber bracket is all you have to take loose to remove the wheel bearing.

A retainer ring

No, that is for the rear. The front is bolted in like I mentioned above.


All I am saying is that the axle held the wore out hub in the bearing. It was like a band aid. The 2008 Explorer is just an example of why I am saying what I am saying. Wheel Bearing and Hubs are no different on any make or model. Even the rear wheel bearing and hub on front wheel drive cars are bolted in through the spindle, and they do not have any kinda of shaft going through them that keep them together.

You can believe what ever you like, I do this stuff all day long, and I do not remember a 2 wheel drive with the hub like a 08 Explorer having anything going through the center of it to hold it all together.

I am done with this thread. I do not have to have you believe what I am saying. It does not make my day go any better or any worse.
I can understand why you think that, it just is not true.

 

[FIND]

Sorry, you are right. I mistakenly posted a picture of the rear.

But... we are still talking about 2nd gen explorers anyway... a 4th gen is actually pretty different, even if the parts look kind of the same. That is why the wheel bearings are different on 2wd and 4wd second gens.

 

[jake1018291]

to me it just makes more sense that the stub nut would be helping hold it together cuz those bearings im sure where replaced not that long ago atleast according to my dad and have never had problems with the other one, and it just seems like it wasnt a coincidence that it failed when the cv wasnt connected at all instead of it just failing with it connected

 

[jake1018291]

and turdle you live just south of me right? have you been to tuttle creek before? im curious to know how it is thinking about after the lift do a little wheeling there and then unload the bike and have some fun with that too

 

[jake1018291]

well, worked on it yesterday im about half way done fixing it, put the new cv on and the new lower ball joint in, the steering knuckle is 2/3s awayfrom being attached again but i cant seem to pop the top balljoint back in its becoming a pain in the arse, but after that just need to put the new hub on, calliper, rotor, and then a wheel and tire and then she'll be back on all 4s

 

[SoNic67]

I can understand why you think that, it just is not true.

So, based on what you say and what is shown in your (partial) picture, the only thing that holds in place the bearing inside the knuckle during lateral loading (curves) is the split retainer ring #12... not the axle nut that is not shown.
Great job in figuring it out!

 

[jake1018291]

shes fixed too bad i got an ugly spare rim on it