n_spect_r
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I have spent quite a bit of time looking for this answer but so far no luck. If it is already posted please point me in the right direction.
I am trying to get a better understanding of what happens inside this transmission (4r44e). I purchased a core with the intent to rebuild it and swap what is in my truck. In the process I have come to believe the problem is the valve body and nothing in the main gears. Will outline that later.
What I have discovered is that this is a truly marvelous contraption, yet I am still baffled by one item. I have discerned the following;
Rotation from engine/torque converter comes in through the input shaft. That connects directly to the overdrive planet carrier. The OD output is driven by the OD sprag at the same speed as the planet carrier. Stopping the drum with the OD band causes the sun gear to stop and the planets now drive the OD ring gear which moves the OD shaft about 30% faster than the input shaft so the OD shaft slips past the sprag, providing overdrive. The coast clutch locks the OD shaft and input shaft together so there can be no slip on the OD sprag and provides engine braking. Really cool! The OD shaft directly drives the forward drum. Closing the direct clutch will connect the direct drum with the forward drum, and closing the reverse band causes the sun gear attached to the shell to drive the planets in the rear carrier, moving the rear ring gear in reverse. The output shaft is driven either by the forward planet carrier or rear ring gear.
Now for where I am stumped. In order to get any forward motion, the forward clutch must engage. At this point if I close the forward clutch and either the reverse or intermediate band, the sun gear on the shell stops and causes the ring gear to drive the forward planet gears which drive the output at about 1.4:1. Release all bands, and close the forward clutch and the direct clutch effectively locks the sun and ring gear together so the planet gears can not move and I have 1:1 output. What I can not figure out is where first gear comes in. Closing the forward clutch and nothing else does not produce any output. What am I missing here?
I am trying to get a better understanding of what happens inside this transmission (4r44e). I purchased a core with the intent to rebuild it and swap what is in my truck. In the process I have come to believe the problem is the valve body and nothing in the main gears. Will outline that later.
What I have discovered is that this is a truly marvelous contraption, yet I am still baffled by one item. I have discerned the following;
Rotation from engine/torque converter comes in through the input shaft. That connects directly to the overdrive planet carrier. The OD output is driven by the OD sprag at the same speed as the planet carrier. Stopping the drum with the OD band causes the sun gear to stop and the planets now drive the OD ring gear which moves the OD shaft about 30% faster than the input shaft so the OD shaft slips past the sprag, providing overdrive. The coast clutch locks the OD shaft and input shaft together so there can be no slip on the OD sprag and provides engine braking. Really cool! The OD shaft directly drives the forward drum. Closing the direct clutch will connect the direct drum with the forward drum, and closing the reverse band causes the sun gear attached to the shell to drive the planets in the rear carrier, moving the rear ring gear in reverse. The output shaft is driven either by the forward planet carrier or rear ring gear.
Now for where I am stumped. In order to get any forward motion, the forward clutch must engage. At this point if I close the forward clutch and either the reverse or intermediate band, the sun gear on the shell stops and causes the ring gear to drive the forward planet gears which drive the output at about 1.4:1. Release all bands, and close the forward clutch and the direct clutch effectively locks the sun and ring gear together so the planet gears can not move and I have 1:1 output. What I can not figure out is where first gear comes in. Closing the forward clutch and nothing else does not produce any output. What am I missing here?