RU planning to put a 302 in your X?

[RFR2212]

Search and search and search.... Then realize no one to my knowledge has done it in an 01sport... the newer trucks have lots more electronics... All of the V-8 swaps i know of have been done on the older 1st gen explorer... But i coulda missed trucks now and then, but it's a whole lotta work

 

[Jason_25]

Originally posted by Johhny Island
I have a question what would i need to do a swap on my 2001 Ex Sport. I was told i needed an engine thats the same year. Is this true and if so what else besides the Engine, Transmissin, and computer do i need. Thanks any help would be greatly appreciated.

Johnny, you need to check legalities of a swap in your area. You should also buy the factory service manual for the 2001 models as well. Because like you said, in most states you need an engine from the same year, which means the only 5.0 you can use is the one from the 2001 4-door explorer.

 

[thornbird33]

I've got a 88 ranger with a 92 5.0 HO fm a Mustang
used C-4 TCI tranny, advanced adapter to stock t-case,
L&L Headers the only ones out there worth a sh*t the advanced adapter ones suck !!!! and an x radiator I sold my 92 x w/6" lift and 33" thornbirds to build the ranger should of put the motor in the x though.....oh well
I will post pics when I can. But definetly plan,plan,plan
its not that hard or expensive if you can do most of the work yourself

 

[geno]

I am in the very early info gathering stage of doing this conversion to mine, is there anyone close to Eastern Pa who has done this so I can get an eyeball on it?

 

[DrAgMaStA]

Ok i have a project!!! I have a 98 sport 2dr 4.0ohc. Now i'm looking to drop a 5.0 in. I been looking around and researching and i came up with the point that the 88-93 wont fit because the front end of the 5.0 to the radatior would only give me 3/4" clearence (thanks to the people on the under the hood forum for the help and info) now i was told the 94-95 5.0 would fit comfortably under the hood with room to spare.....

I'm dead serious about this project, i've been working on chevy cars all my life but now i've turned to ford for some new adventure. I was thinking about getting a junkyard 5.0 and re-doing the ENTIRE engine. All aftermarket parts. (yea i wanna run 10s lol) i'm a krazy speed freak but i do have alot of knowledge about engines, custom work etc but it's all on chevys so i dont know how mch it will help me with my 98 x 2dr but i sure want alot of power.

I would like to go the cheapest route but if i need to go alittle high because of the structure of the chasis or frame from the transfer then i will because i want this engine.

Anyone who could give me info to do this project i would be greatly appriciative because as far as i have looked i have not seen the 5.0 swap in a 98 sport so i kno this will be a project for everyone to see but from the info that i kno and the research i did i know it can be successful!!!

If anyone could give me some extra knowledge i would be more then appriciative!!!!

 

[Speedfreak]

The swap into a '95 and newer truck isn't really considered a swap. Mainly because the '96 and newer X's had the option of a 5.0L. Your route is simplier then the older trucks, find a factory X in the bone yard and rape it for it's engine mounts, accessory drive, hoses, fuel rail, intake, exhaust or hell take the whole engine and use that as your base . For better hedders order the Motorsport hedders right from Ford. Now the only problem that will come up is the dreaded emissions. Most certainly in your area you will have to conform to the local emissions laws and this will mean that the computer controls will have to be from at least the same year of vehicle. That would mean pirating from a '98 X. You may want to check with local emissions laws on that fact first.


The nice thing about swapping from the 4.0L to the 5.0L in your truck is that it it is a near bolt-in affair. Goodluck and keep us informed as to your progress.

 

[Supradean]

please do explain exactly how hard a 1995 4.0 swap is to a V8. I have a 95 with a blown motor and would love ot swap it all out for an 8. Im located in CT and if it fails emmisions 3 times and a mechanic can sign off on it they give you a pass sticker. what are my optinos please
Thanks
Dean

 

[Speedfreak]

If you found a complete wrecked Explorer with a 5.0L, the swap would be a matter of swapping in the drive train. The wiring maybe the hardest part because Ford will keep some harness interchangeable and for some reason others are not. The conversion would be as difficult as your mechanical abilities make it.

I hope this helps abit.

 

[Supradean]

Would it matter what year the V8 model explorer was? like if i wanted to do a 98 model swap or a 97, would it matter? it is an auto also but i think i would swap everything including transfer case...please do give me as much imput as possible.
thanks

 

[Magicfan25]

I too am considering the 5.0 swap for my 98 Sport (currently have the SOHC). No emissions testing here in Fl, so I'm in the free and clear there. I was terrified when I saw the first post, but I guess its really not so bad on the newer Explorers since there is a V8 option (for the 4 door anyway).

If I do this, I plan to throw in at least forged rods and pistons. Go ahead and port/polish the heads and maybe a new cam. I think a self oiling procharger would top it off nicely. Might need to beef the trans up, but I dont know.

My only real complaint with the explorer is how slooooow it is. I've been looking around, but cant find a performance vehicle that doesnt sacrafice too much. The mustang cant put more than 9yr old in the back. Lightnings only seat 2 (3 for short trips). I just dont know what to do.

 

[Speedfreak]

It wouldn't make a difference which year you found. Just as long as it's complete. Engine, tranny, transfer-case, hedders, y-pipe, mounts, hoses, throttle cable, intake ducting, vaccum hoses, tranny cooler lines, tranny shifter cable, and complete wiring harnesses. It may also be cheaper and easier to just buy a 5.0L Explorer in this case.

 

[VonZipper]

I am a little confused here. When I put the 302 in my x, I was told by numerous shops that there is no short water pump for a Ford Small block. They said my best chance was out of Summit.

As for the Radiator. I am telling you, a 2 core radiator will fit behind your grill, and is hidden out of site. I bought dual electric fans in a shroud. The shroud is the same size as the opening that the stock radiator got its air through. I think the fans are from Be Cool, and have a thermastat with them. No problems as of yet.

For all of you out there who want to adapt a c-4 to the electronic transfer case in the older X's, you do not have to buy the adapter from advanced. Find yourself a C-5. They are the same as a c-4, except they use a lock up torque converter. You can either put your valve body on the c-5, and use your converter, or the tail shaft and rear adapter can be put into your c-4. Either way is so much cheaper than buying one of their adapters.

Just some thoughts for you all, keep designing and thinking.

 

[VonZipper]

Dead Link Removed

Thats my toy.

 

[chevyh8r]

dang thats alot of planning i woulden't mind it though they are pretty fast bye doing a few things to them

 

[VonZipper]

It is not that bad at all, and the trade off are minimal.

You only gain a small amount of HP, but the torque gain is enough to go through the trouble.

 

[914x4sport]

Props to everyone whos submitted to this thread, its really helped me out alot!!!.. Im just haveing problems finding specific info on my particular application, I want to build up a 91-94 with 2WD and a 5-speed with a 302 But everywhere I look most of the details given are for an AOD and T-Case, which I wont be using either of...If anyonehas done or is planning this specific conversion let me know, we can swap some ideas... For now I just gotta keep plan plan plannin...

 

[Speedfreak]

E-mail me at dspeedfreak@hotmail.com .n The first conversion I did was a 2wd 5.0L, AOD. A 5 speed would be similiar, I can probably answer most, if not all of your questions.

 

[E150X]

5.0 Swap

Swapping can be expensive or not. Found 2000 Xpl 5.0 engine w/ 28k miles at the first junkyard I came across limping home with poor oil pressure. Explorer 5.0s have iron GT40 heads and Cobra like intake w/ 65mm TB. Also have recessed accessory brackets, unique timing cover/water pump, and oil filter adapter for clearance. Special cast iron exhaust manifolds. This motor unfortunately for you guys is going into a van w/Ford Mass Air conversion kit but I will not use the external unique parts and have posted them in the Parts for Sale forum. HO mustangs have all been scavanged around here and they don't have these parts. Ford pickups and vans also have rear sump oil pans but not mass air. Hope you can use this info and good luck.

 

[BUCHVILLEMAN]

hey guys -
i got a 351m coming my way. i was ogin to put a stadnard 5 speed and manual shift tcase that was in bronco or f-150....

wiring is the thing that i gotta work ou tin my head. do i jsut get a book and match wire for wire or is there a wiring harness that i can buy? this swap shouldnt be much differnt than a 5.0 just more fitting issues. migh thave to modify the forn clip to get everythign in there. also might have to keep the body lift to clear stuff as well.



give me all the info you can. i plan on doing this this year. in a few months if and when i can afford tranny and t case.

 

[Brandons]

WE had the option to get V8 with the 94 we got