Starting full width D44 SAS...B4 I order, what do you guys think??

Starting full width D44 SAS...FINALLY!!! (Update)

Like the title says..I feel that I am ready to begin my SAS and have compiled a shopping list. I'm wanting some opinions/thoughts/ideas about the list before I continue on. Also note anything I may have left out. Your help is appreciated.
There are a few things (in red) that I will need your help on, any ideas?
Things that I have/received are bolded!

D44 Front
-1978 Ford Bronco HP D44 Full Width (Moved Forward 2")

-78-79 Coil Spring Towers Pair (Broncograveyard Fab 1/4" steel brackets to space it out 2")

-Stock 1978 Bronco Lower Coil Retainer/Spring Cup (Turned around?/moved 1" in?)

-Wildhorse Rock Crawler 5.5" Black Coil Springs (Wildhorses4x4)

-Rancho RS9000 adjustables. I 've heard they give you 13" of travel

-Front Shock Towers F250 Shock Towers #E5TZ-18183-A

-Yukon 4.88 Ring and Pinion Gears

-Detroit Electrac Locker (DrivetrainSpecialists)

-Master Overhaul Install Kit (Broncograveyard)

-D44 Yukon Chrome Moly 4340 Front Axle Set (Broncograveyard)


-Extreme Outer Rebuild Kit (Broncograveyard)

-Caliper Left/Right Rebuilt (Local Napa)

-CAGE Offroad Tubular Radius Arms CAGE Offroad

-CAGE Offroad Radius Arm Mounts (Fab 1/4" Steel Brackets to space out 2")

-1994 Explorer Drag Link (Ford Parts Network)

-1978-1979 Stock Tie Rod (Broncograveyard)

-SuperLift Adjustable Trac Bar (Broncograveyard)

-78-79 Bronco Trac Bar Drop bracket (Broncograveyard)

Ford 9 Inch

Yukon 4.88 ring and Pinion Gears (Broncograveyard)
Detroit Locker (Randy's RNP)
Spring Perches (4WheelParts)
Master Install Kit (Broncograveyard)
WARN Leaf Spring Shackles (4 Wheel Parts)



2" Body Lift (liftkitdepot.com # PER792)

Wheels
15x10 Steel Rock Crawlers (Series 97) (4WheelParts)

Tires
36x13.5 IROK Radials (4WheelParts)

 

[jrgaylor]

no go on the bcbronco's eb adjustable bar.... it's even about 2" shorter then i wanted it to be for my narrow D44..... but i got a welder.... i aint scared

Why spend $140 on something you are going to have to modify to work, if it was 2" to short for you it will be about 5" to short for him

 

[ohe_boy]

thats what I was thinking!!! jrgaylor what did you decide to use for yout trac bar?

 

[jrgaylor]

I have a superlift Adj.tracbar for a 78 f-150 on the way, I am currently using a stock f-150 tracbar.
My shock mounts(2"),coil buckets(2") & tracbar mount(~1") are all spaced out. and my lower spring retainers are "clocked" for best fit, I am using one of the orignal bolt holes and drilled a new hole.
Should/when it stops raining here in WA I will get you some pics of what has worked for me.
The coil buckets off the 78 f-150 are not flat like what appears in the photos of the EB coil buckets I have seen, and move the coils out about 1". here is a couple pics of my buckets from awhile back.

 

[ohe_boy]

did you grab your axles off a f150 or bronco? I was planning on geting the superlift adjustable trac bar for the 78-79 bronco, since my axles are off a bronco!!

 

[jrgaylor]

When the bronco went full size in 78 it used the f-150 suspension, So I would assume they are the same.

I bought a whole donor vehicle(78 f-150 w/ 4" lift) and took what I wanted, stripped off what I could sell and then called the hulk hauler.

 

[ohe_boy]

Thats good to know information. What year(s) of F150 did it use the suspensions on? I can keep an eye out for these years of F150 when I do the shopping.

I basically did the same thing to my donor bronco. Ripped out evreything I wanted, helped my friend take out what he wanted, and got rid of the bronco. What kind of tires you planning on running?

 

[jrgaylor]

I am not sure of the exact year of change I think it is 76-79

 

[Hotweels]

Why spend $140 on something you are going to have to modify to work, if it was 2" to short for you it will be about 5" to short for him

i dont have to modify anything... instead of me welding my trac-bar mount to the outside of the frame now it gets mounted under the frame just thought i would be nice and post what i previously said i would post.

bcbroncos dont have length spec's on there web site and i thought there was a chance... besides the F150 and EB bars are not very thick walled... this one is 1/4" DOM threaded in about 6" with a 3/4" heim... very nice quality compaired to the adjustable ones my friends use.

 

[Kirby N.]

Check these. I am using them if I ever do it again. Shock mount and a coil bucket all in one. Pottsy builds them from the RRORC

http://www.rrorc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22634

 

[ohe_boy]

Check these. I am using them if I ever do it again. Shock mount and a coil bucket all in one. Pottsy builds them from the RRORC

http://www.rrorc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22634

Wow! Those look pretty cool! I wonder if you 'd still have to space them out two inches though!!!!

 

[Kirby N.]

Email potsy. It seems like I saw him build some that were spacer for FW.

 

[bmxking5]

Do you know how much they cost Kirby?

EDIT: Just found some threads saying 140-150 shipped. Not a bad deal at all, considering it would cost 30 bucks for the F250 shock mounts (w/ shipping) and 80 + shipping for the new 78-79 buckets.

 

[ohe_boy]

Would these work for a FW SAS on a 1st gen. Explorer?

 

[bmxking5]

I emailed Potsy a little while ago to see how much extra it would be to have them already spaced out for the full width. I don't see why they wouldn't work on an Explorer. The guys on RRORC are using them with d44's on their Rangers and BII's.

 

[ohe_boy]

I might consider buying these instead of the broncograveyard and ford parts network set,...I'llhave to see what the total cost we'll be for both options including s/h.

bmxking - I think there was a thread that asked if it could come witha 3" spacer for FW d44's

 

[bmxking5]

I might consider buying these instead of the broncograveyard and ford parts network set,...I'llhave to see what the total cost we'll be for both options including s/h.

bmxking - I think there was a thread that asked if it could come witha 3" spacer for FW d44's

Ok, just talked to him on AIM. The 140 and 150 shipped prices on RRORC are for paying members only. The ones for non-RRORC members are 175 shipped. And in this case, you'd still need to space them out, etc. He said he could "build in" the space but he'd need the truck there to make sure everything turns out right. So basically, I'm either going to have a local shop build some with the spacing already in there or just go back to the 78-79 buckets and F250 shock towers.

 

[ohe_boy]

Hmmmm... it seems like I will probably go with the 78-79 buckets and f250 shock towers too!! If its already 175 for non members plus shipping to Hawaii, thats gonna be a lotta mula!! Especially if I'm gonna have to space them out anyways! Oh well, Thanks bmxking!

BTW, do any of you happen to know if the diameter of the coil springs are the same for both the 78-79 bronco and the EB? In other words, would the wildhorse coils fit in the 78-79 buckets/retainers?

 

[bmxking5]

Yes it will fit, that is why most of the people use the 78-79 buckets with W.H. EB coils.

 

[Kirby N.]

I am still going to buy pottsys if I do it again. I like the upper retainer or lack there of. Also, might as well pay the membership fee and then buy them I am running EB width and I cut my stocker buckets to fit over the lump in the drivers side then welded them on. I would do the same with his. Only problem is the ones I fabbed have bump stops, shock towers, brake line mounts and spring buckets all in one. His have no bump stops, but I will probably add a mount for my brake lines like I did on the ones I built...

 

[ohe_boy]

Well,...I just made some of my needed purchases and already I'm down $2200