Starting full width D44 SAS...B4 I order, what do you guys think??

[rino351]

oh, so they're just for different amounts of lift?

thanks, I guess I'll just get the 7* ones

 

[james t]

You need to find out what your caster is gonna be and order to set it. You can adjust the caster by moving the radius arm to frame mount up or down, "lift" height (springs or were the spring tower is placed on the frame) or with different wedges. The different degrees are for different caster settings for different lifts... but since you're SASing you dont really have a reference point.

 

[rino351]

... but since you're SASing you dont really have a reference point.

so pretty much if I order the 7* ones I should be fine, considering bmx said most everyone gets those anyhow?

*ending threadjacking*

 

[bmxking5]

I think you'll be fine with the 7* ones if you plan on having about the same amount of lift as most others who do an SAS (6-9"). On our trucks, I've heard that you can't go less than 6" of lift with the SAS b/c of clearance issues, so there is no way you could get the lower degree bushings. Only other option for them is higher degree bushings...and after seeing that you wheel the X pretty hard I know you won't be going for some giant lift, so you won't really be able to use those either.

 

[rino351]

sweet


thanks

*ok, I'm really going to stop threadjacking now*

 

[ohe_boy]

Its all good rino351. I don't mind sharing sas questions here!!! The more, the merrier!!
And btw, I am using the stock radius arms and already have ordered and received the 7 degree bushings! Like BMX said, many people have gone that route and so have I!

Only thing is that I'm still unsure about what kind of yoke i have on the d44!! how can i tell? see if the d44 yoke can fit around the front driveshaft u joint??

 

[Kirby N.]

My Dana 44 out of a 76 F150 had the right yoke on it for front driveshaft.

Ryan, It really depends on your mounts pretty heavily, not just lift to reiterate what James said. I used the lowest profile mounts I could pirate out of a 2x4 70s f150. I did that so I wouldn't snag them on anything. I am really not sure how my caster is since I haven't got it on a rack yet, but I don't think it is good. I started out with 4 degrees then moved to 7 degrees. Those bushings can also effect camber if caster is way out of wack and toe in must be used to off set it. I think that is what is going on with mine.

I will find out when I finally take it down to get it aligned professionally (I am an ametuer, but I still can get it pretty close) but I am not doing that until I have the final steering setup.

 

[jrgaylor]

u-joint specs

 

[ohe_boy]

Did anybody install their own gears or are knowledgable on the ring and pinion gears? Need some help!!

 

[rino351]

my dad and I installed gears into the 8.8" adn as long as you follow the directions it wasn't that hard at all. We will probably install the gears ourselves when we get that far for the sas

 

[ohe_boy]

I needed some help with the Dana 44 up front! I know that its a bit more complicated then the ford 9 inch!

 

[bmxking5]

Yep...from what I've read, the ford 9" is actually one of the simplest axles. And it's definitely proven to be so, when I've pulled it about this many times. I may or may not regear mine on my own. I haven't made up my mind yet.

 

[ohe_boy]

I've started on regearing the ford 9 and so far, so easy!!

 

[Kirby N.]

i have done about 10 axles so far. i did an xj last week and i will do my tj next. all the same basic idea, just accomplished a little differently. the 44 was an annoying design imho. too much pressing on and off. if i had to do it again i would make some set up bearings...

 

[ohe_boy]

Well thats one of the things...I thought that the master install kit would've came with the setup bearings but when I opened the kit up, it didn't come with one. ALSO, it didn't come with those inner and outer oil slingers and oil baffle, so I had to go hunting around the island for some. I didn't want to order them online as they are only a buck a piece. Luckily for local 4x4 shops they had all kinds of oil slingers and baffles!

 

[ohe_boy]

Changes made to my list - first post

 

[ohe_boy]

anybody got pics of their drop trac bar bracket/mount? Not sure how/where to mount them!

 

[Kirby N.]

Mine:

TBar Mount

And

Mount

Mines a stock mount turned over with a support built for it. I also welded some 1/4" reinforcement to the frame. Never had a problem with it. I hope Ibuilt it right the first time. There is alot of stress on that area, don't skimp in terms of strength.

 

[ohe_boy]

78-79 Bronco Drop Trac Bar Bracket

Actually I have these trac bar brackets off Broncograveyard and was wondering how you mount this sucker on?

On the lower left part of the bracket there's a hole with a tube thats welded on to the other side. what do you do with that?!

 

[splodo49]

Its kinda worthless without the original trac bar mount to bolt it over. unless you cut one of the upper ears off and weld it to the frame.