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2001 5.0 intermittent power loss and missing

66427

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2001 5.0 250k

Saturday, my son says the Explorer is running a little rough. I told him take my SHO to work I'll drive the Explorer.
I went out for an errand and it seemed to run fine until I slowed to pull into the store I was going to, it started to miss a little bit. About a 5 mile trip.
When I left the miss was still there. As I got closer to home, I noticed a significant power loss, then all of a sudden everything is fine hitting on all eight and making great power again. At the last major intersection as I slowed I could tell the miss was back, and increasing. Not so much that it wouldn't idle, but noticeable. Pulling back into the house it was worsening.
I had another errand to run later and wanted to take it on another longer drive and get everything good and warm to see if that would effect it, as my son has been only doing short runs for some time now going to school and work, 8 miles and 4 miles respectively. I did not make it far, about 3 miles and it was skipping so bad I doubted my ability to make it home. I did, but used neutral and a bit of throttle at red lights.
We had put new plugs and wires this past summer, so my first thought was maybe coils?
That night we started poking around and found one plug (#2) was "close" to the header (yes, TMH's) and was...brittle.
Sunday morning I went down and bought a new set of Duralast as I had the Duralast Gold Lifetime Warranty. They do not make the gold anymore.
Changed the wires, started it up and whew Running like it's only got 100k on it.
Backed it out of the garage, went to stringing lights, tending the dog, wrapping for xmas...etc etc...
Had another errand and told my son lets go. Got to the first light and the slight skip is back. We leave the light and as we're accelerating, my son says "I've got it to the floor" We're hardly accelerating.
Then Whoom! all power is suddenly available and away we go. Get back into traffic and sure enough, the miss is back and real sluggish acceleration.

Got to HD, Got home, more of the same.
But where do I start?
Rechecked the wires, all seated good.
Will a coil pack go intermittently?
Fuel Pump? Will a bad fuel pump supply full pressure, then not, then supply full pressure again?
EGR valve?

No CEL...

As always, Don't try this at home I'm a train....I mean, As always all help and feedback is greatly appreciated.

Greatly appreciated.
 



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Bump, hoping somebody has an idea.

I borrowed a buddies Blue Driver code reader and ran a diagnostic on it last night after it sat for +/- 24 hours. Ran great. No codes.
My son drove it to work today and it ran great about 4 miles. On the way home tonight though the miss is back.

Any body have any ideas?
 






Could very well be a fuel pump.
 






Sounds similar to the gremlin I’m hunting in my 5.0.

Runs great for weeks or months, then it’ll randomly start running like dogshit, requiring full throttle to keep going, popping and banging, then crap out at a light and refuse to start. Let it sit for a bit, fires right up and runs like nothing happened.

Mine threw a crank position code one time it did it. I’m gonna try that, and then likely throw a pump at it if that doesn’t work.

Let me know what you find, and I’ll do the same…although I prob won’t get to it for a few months
 






following.
 






Bump, hoping somebody has an idea.

I borrowed a buddies Blue Driver code reader and ran a diagnostic on it last night after it sat for +/- 24 hours. Ran great. No codes.
My son drove it to work today and it ran great about 4 miles. On the way home tonight though the miss is back.

Any body have any ideas?
How does the pickup and trigger look inside cam sensor?

Have you tried the sticky at top of this forum? 2nd gen issues try this first thread
 






@66427 This sounds like the fuel pump, exact same thing happened to an acquaintance's 2000 Taurus a while back. Then the pump quit altogether. Do check the other things mentioned here, for confirmation, but it's almost certainly a fuel pump.
 






Maybe try replacing the fuel filter....if that doesn't do it, as others stated ...fuel pump likely. Does it ever drive jerky / sputtering ? ...if so that points more towards filter.
 






How does the pickup and trigger look inside cam sensor?

Have you tried the sticky at top of this forum? 2nd gen issues try this first thread
I will check cam position sensor connections.

Thank you!

Have not looked at sticky...did a search and came up...with more questions...
 






@66427 This sounds like the fuel pump, exact same thing happened to an acquaintance's 2000 Taurus a while back. Then the pump quit altogether. Do check the other things mentioned here, for confirmation, but it's almost certainly a fuel pump.
Googleing You Tube now on "2001 Explorer Fuel Pump Change"

I changed the fuel pump on my wifes old escort years ago by dropping the tank, which required exhaust removal...only to then see that there was an access hatch there hidden beneath the back seat.
I don't suppose there is an access hatch in the Explorer?
 






Maybe try replacing the fuel filter....if that doesn't do it, as others stated ...fuel pump likely. Does it ever drive jerky / sputtering ? ...if so that points more towards filter.
I did not include that in my description...Fuel filter was my first go to. I change that a couple times a year.
 






I appreciate all your comments, and I thought I had this thread set up to email me notifications...my bad that I missed them.

A mechanic friend/coworker lent me another code reader that I will try tonight. It started missing real bad again last night and my son said the CEL was back on. He also said bite the bullet and get the Motorcraft wires and skip the "lifetime warranty" duralast. That the wires may still be the problem. I hate to just keep buying parts hoping to find the right one.
 






No access panel unfortunately. Testing the fuel pressure is pretty quick and easy. Most auto store lend fuel pressure test kits.
 






No access panel unfortunately. Testing the fuel pressure is pretty quick and easy. Most auto store lend fuel pressure test kits.
I will ask Autozone or Advance if they have one.
 






@66427 As @Mbrooks420 said, there is no factory-installed access panel on these Explorers. However, that can't stop owners from adding their own, if desired. There is a write-up on this, finding it shouldn't be hard.
 






Absolutely check the fuel pressure first most auto parts store will rent one for free you just have to front the price of the test kit then they return your money
 






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