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Okay I have needed to replace my canister purge solenoid for some time and I finally got around to it so I thought I would share my findings.

First off lets start with why it needed to be replaced:

1. Tons of pressure in the gas tank. Usually after a hard run, big change in altitude, hot day, or towing. Crack the gas cap and air rushes out for a few seconds. Try to fill up at the gas pump and it would not allow the pump to operate (back pressure in tank)

2. Strong gas odor after idle for a long time, after a long hard run, etc...

3. Because it has 100K miles on it

Proceedure: (91-94, may work other years, not sure)

-Get new one from Napa, $20 approx

-Do yourself a favor and unplug the vacuum line from the chacoal (purge) canister itself, and the throttle body. take the whole assembly inside. The reason for this is a few of the fittings in the nylon fuel lines are plastic, brittle, and if you break one you are screwed! Also the cansiter purge itself has plastic fittings and if you break this it's back to Napa and you just threw $20 in the trash.

-Boil some water. The nylon high pressure fual lines on these trucks are very stiff, trying to force the lines over the plastic fittings = broken parts = lost money = you angry.

-You can cut or pull the lines off the old canister purge valve, your choice. I pulled mine off very carefully after heating the ends up with a blow dryer.

-To press the lines onto the new canister purge valve boil the ends of the lines in the water, then press them on VERY slowly and carefully

-Re-install and pat yourself on the back for not breaking anything. I have watched a friend of mine break two of thse suckers before he finally took it off the truck and used the heat solution. He ended up buying 3 valves and one trip to the junk yard for a new 90 degree elbow that goes right under the throttle body.

What did it fix?

-No more pressure in gas tank when cap is removed
-NO more strong fuel smell
-Loss of power when really hot out (I didnt think it was running right, turns out it wasnt!)
-I also (to my surprise) noticed a MUCH smoother idle, both when warm and under first start up in the morning.
-Easier starting. Fires right up like it used to, lately it had been cranking a few times.


Why?

The cansiter purge valve sticks in the OPEN position when it goes bad, meaning it is always purging the charcoal canister back to the fuel tank. Obviously, besides building up pressure in your tank it also backs up the whole fuel system and will not allow the fuel pressure regualtor to function properly, thus the injectors, pump, and regulator are all working extra hard to keep up.


Hope that helps!!!
 



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Always sticks open?

I got a P0442 small evaporative leak on my 97 and my purge solenoid, located over the spare tire, was stuck open. Never had the symptoms you said like pressure. Are you sure it wasn't stuck closed? My solenoid case had almost disintegrated from rust. This must get sprayed with a lot of water. Taking the valve apart, the filter screen was totally clogged. Hence the code was small leak and not a large leak. I went to a jobber that distributed Ford products and they couldn't figure out what it was. They kept bringing out other emissions valves. Finally went to Ford dealer and they seemed to have trouble too. Finally came up with F78Z-9F45-BA. This could have been a design change year. Anyway, this valve normally vents when the engine is off. There is also another valve in the engine compartment. Where was yours? There is so little information on this stuff. Haynes test procedure was totally wrong.
 






thats awesome. Ive been trying to figure out my sweet gas smell forever and people have told me this it what it is....but.. where exactally is it located??
you dont think you could post any pics do you?

Thanks
Ryan
 






Opera House:

Your 97 is totally different from my 93 OHV 4.0L. The canister purge solenoid is not the same setup, so the information posted above does not apply.


Ryan1:

On your 94 4.0L the canister urge solenoid is nothard to find. On the drivers side of the engine, first locate your charcoal canister. It will have two lines coming out of it, one goes under the brake booster and to the fuel tank, the other goes directly to the canister purge solenoid. The solenoid itself is brass in color, a little larger then a film canister and has two wires going to it. Ford tuck's the solenoid under the upper intake manifold just behind the throttle body, it will come out if you carefully pull on it. Then to replace it refer to the info above.

Sorry I dont have any pictures, but if you go buy a new one from Ford or Napa you will know exactly what to look for.
 






20 bucks at Napa, cool! Everyone else is trying to charge 40 to 60. Guess its time to fix mine too!
 






Thanks 410

Also have you noticed an improvement in you gas milage since you replaced that.

Ryan
 






I replaced my purge canistor and still get the 565 code canister purge circuit failure. Any ideas.
 






shinta:

My experience with the 565 code suggests that the PCM is not very sensitive to faults in this system, so that there are basically 2 possibilities (neither of which involve the charcoal canister itself).

1) Full open in the canister purge solenoid (CANP) circuit or 2) short to ground in the CANP circuit. In either case, the CANP circuit is a pretty basic DC circuit, so this should be a straightforward diagnosis with a wiring diagram and a voltmeter. Recognize that the circuit fault could be inside the PCM as well, so if you see no fault in solenoid or in the wiring, it could easily be a bad connection on the circuit board or something like that.
 






Ok, sounds simple enuf. Thank you.
 






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