Front end work

[carlover]

i would assume the vavle bothe to work with eachother and have some sort of damping in the coilover to keep the bypass cooler

From what ive seen on a lot of setups the valving is taken out of the coilover. Its used more of a coil carrier you could say.

 

[R.J.]

i never new that

 

[R.J.]

I thought you were going with SAWs. What caused you to go to King instead?

i dont want them to leak

 

[carlover]

But it would be bad ass to have both do the work. And im sure you could do it, and ive seen it done that way as well.

I think id love to squeeze in a 3.0 shock if i ever go LT. Might not be possible but that thing would never get hot and fade.

 

[Dannyboy]

wow, I guess I didn't even think they looked like coilovers due to the fact that I couldn't see any threads. And big tabs are good. You gotta think, your entire front end will sit on the weight of that coilover now. That tab is essentially holding your truck up. In the past the coil spring had the top of the axle and the coil bucket with 4-6 rivets, now your rig will be on those 2 tabs!!!

 

[mounty71]

From what ive seen on a lot of setups the valving is taken out of the coilover. Its used more of a coil carrier you could say.

Never knew that either. Not to derail the thread, but if that's the case, then what is the coilover's advantage over regular ol' coil springs?

 

[R.J.]

yeah the car will also be held up on the 1/2" bolts that hold the coilovers on. as in big, i meant stick out far.

 

[Dannyboy]

yeah that picture was after midnight too

Oh wow, I usually wrap it up by 9:30 or 10:00 due to the fact that I'm sure my neighbors are probably still irritated by that, the neighborhood is otherwise pretty silent. I can imagine cops and gunshots or a combination of both would come if I was grinding like that at midnight.

 

[R.J.]

Never knew that either. Not to derail the thread, but if that's the case, then what is the coilover's advantage over regular ol' coil springs?

longer coilsspring for more travel (if you think about, the coil springs go all the way from the beam up into the engine, thats pretty long.) eas of getting the correct spring rate. probably cycles smoother

 

[carlover]

Im still anxiously waiting the results on using the g-50 pack....LOL, i know wrong thread.

 

[R.J.]

im still wondering to.

will the shackles hit the frame?..... will the ranger springs give enough ride hight?.... will the tripple military wrap springs be able twist enough for good flex? we may never know

 

[carlover]

im still wondering to.

will the shackles hit the frame?..... will the ranger springs give enough ride hight?.... will the tripple military wrap springs be able twist enough for good flex? we may never know

They will flex, im pretty sure of that. The ride hieght and the shackle issue are what im wondering. Also how much does it move your axle....

 

[IZwack]

From what ive seen on a lot of setups the valving is taken out of the coilover. Its used more of a coil carrier you could say.

Wow I see -- I asked cauz after seeing those coil overs + bypasses ran on like class-1 buggies, I always wonder how difficult it would be to tune two shocks that behave very differently. But then I always brushed it off and thought that the manufacturer (fox, king, etc...) probably sends out some guru to tune the whole mess with some giant computer

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anyways.. [/hijack!]

 

[carlover]

Ive seen alot of both setups, i wondered myself at first and then started asking around on DR. Tuning two shocks would be hard though, but if you could get them to work together that would be a good setup.

On the class ones and TT's and such id imagine both shocks have valving to work together but im not 100% sure on those..

 

[Dannyboy]

oh your air shocks have the USB port on them too Izwack? My triple bypassers do.


post up a link to something from DR if you got one handy about using a coilover + bypass shock.

 

[IZwack]

Yuhh -- its a pressure/temp sensor (NPT thread with a built in A/D converter) bored 180 degrees from the fill schrader valve. Sorry for the blur, I dont have any other pic of it.

 

[CopyKat]

Oh wow, I usually wrap it up by 9:30 or 10:00 due to the fact that I'm sure my neighbors are probably still irritated by that, the neighborhood is otherwise pretty silent. I can imagine cops and gunshots or a combination of both would come if I was grinding like that at midnight.

That's usually the time I am able to get out in the shop. I'm lucky I'm out in the country. My closest neighbour is over 1/2 mile away.

You boxing in those shoack mounts? Why didn't you mount them on the top of the beam? Did your engine cage dictate where they would be for and aft?

There is the most force on them out front like that, you'll end up with a pretty soft spring. Could have used the lever effect and moved them to the rad arm area.

 

[carlover]

oh your air shocks have the USB port on them too Izwack? My triple bypassers do.


post up a link to something from DR if you got one handy about using a coilover + bypass shock.

Let me see what i can dig up. You can also use some valving in the coilover to take some stress off the secondary shock so it wont overheat/fade..

 

[Dannyboy]

Yuhh -- its a pressure/temp sensor (NPT thread with a built in A/D converter) bored 180 degrees from the fill schrader valve. Sorry for the blur, I dont have any other pic of it.

I was totally making that up, but that's some crazy looking stuff you got going on there. I haven't even touched the valving on mine yet due to the fact that they were arlready run on a truck so I'm going to use that valving and hope it's in my specs.

Mine are just the basic 3 stage adjustment and rebound

 

[R.J.]

You boxing in those shoack mounts? Why didn't you mount them on the top of the beam? Did your engine cage dictate where they would be for and aft?

There is the most force on them out front like that, you'll end up with a pretty soft spring. Could have used the lever effect and moved them to the rad arm area.

ill put a plate on the front. and i just put them in front of the beam cause thats the way McNeil does it and it gives me more room for the air bump to mount. i would've liked to mount the shock a little closer into the beam, but it'll work fine how it is.....or at least it should. going on the radius arm would throw me way off as to what spring rate i should run and how long of coilover i need. and the engine cage looks like it sets the coilover in fornt of the beam pretty nice


oh carlover, i think the deavers will be soft enough to flex, but the front spring hangers/mounts are such a tight fit i don't think they're be much room to let the bushing twist/flex. ill try to take a pic tomorrow and maybe it'll make sense. but im crossing my fingers that it works, or at least works for this trip.