Joining the bandwagon, my 4L OHV build

[Brandon96]

Milky oil?... oh crap.

 

[Xeek]

from the pan

 

[Brandon96]

oh that's not coolant in the oil.. your good.

It COULD be that your getting a little fuel in it. I agree with Mark, I'm thinking your injectors or fuel system is going a little overboard and dumping more than necessary in it.

Smell it, can you POSSIBLY detect any gas in it?

 

[Xeek]

its really hard to tell but smelling fresh oil smells different then shown there. i wanna say i can smell gas..

check fuel pressure? ignition on, press valve on fuel rail?

 

[Brandon96]

yeah, I'd take mark up on his advice first.. check the plugs, see if they're wet and smell like fuel.

 

[Xeek]

i checked the drivers side earlier, they were dry, i didnt smell them at all tho, and had what looks like my oil on the ring around the firing pin.

ill go check all 6 this time just to be sure.

 

[Xeek]

ok all of em are pretty dry besides #6 i think? drivers side, rear plug. has liquid in threads and had some on the spark tip. i cant really tell if any smell like gas or not, ive been smelling so many different things, theyre all running together now

 

[Xeek]

so with my plugs out and coil off, turn ON, sit a min, have someone crank, but if somehow possible it starts(mine started off just 1, 2 & 3..), shut it off. while i watch for gas spraying out? just the hole where i found the wet plug, or all the holes?

 

[Xeek]

ok ive been reading about injector problems. ive been having all the symptoms. up and down idle(even since first start, didnt happen the whole time tho), realllyyyyyyy rough idle and missing and violent shaking, to much fuel soaking that spark plug, maybe others i just couldnt see anything, that caused it to not start, and even hydrolock


am i looking at contacting the ebay seller i bought them from(i never leave any feedback until im satisfied) and seeing what they can do?

 

[Xeek]

thanks to me talking to myself its now to late on a work/school night for me to try to start the truck. im sure the police would be here. shot out whatever was in there, replaced everything, on/of several times i think i was hearing the injectors clicking? 5 clicks total with different pauses between, turn key off and one more click?
since its so late on a monday now i guess i have to wait til tomorrow to try and start it. along with an injector trick i saw, floor the gas and crank the engine. it tells the injectors to shut off and relearn itself into a start? only thing, i dont know how long im supposed to crank it while flooring it. til it starts? or stop after x seconds?

 

[jd4242]

Wow what have i missed?? So it turns over just wont start or stay running? Sounds like your out of gas!!i would start there.the binding is the starter or flexplate or something not the motor.talking the plugs out had nothing to do with it starting,i just did that so i could turn it by hand.last there is no way you hydrolocked it and i never said hydrolocked,i said vaporlocked witch you cant really do,witch i said,i was referring to having air in the gas lines for the first start.i would put gas in it as you have no clue how much you have,then if it does run i would pull the starter and look at it and the flex plate

 

[jd4242]

Also the right O2 might help!and an exhaust! Running straight headers on a stock motor is NOT good

 

[Xeek]

it was out of gas! lol
me and my mom were both thinking that at until mark/brandon were going on about other stuff.

i had like half gal i added, nothing. went and got another gallon(i only have a 1gal jug) and it started!
i drove like 1.5miles to the gas station and it took 18.806gallons! isnt it a 19gal tank???

no trouble getting there and back, steady 15-20mph. just on the way back i saw a va beach city truck look at me, pull over, look at radio area then make a 5 point u-turn on a 50ft wide road but never followed me or anything. i think i was just in his view of the house he was gonna cut the water off of lol

 

[Maniak]

I think what threw us off was when it was mentioned that the motor froze until you pulled some plugs out. At least that is how I interpreted the post.

I did 2 + 2 and apparently got 6. I thought you were saying the motor was not turning over again which would not be "out of gas".

Joys of remote troubleshooting.. What we mean and what we say don't always match with what we read and what we understand.. I'm surprised I don't get slapped more often with all the mis-understandings I'm involved in..

~Mark

 

[Turdle]

Gert all your sensors and exhaust back in place before driving it around. Calm down, take a deep breath, exhale, and get to it.

Seriously, you re risking severe engine damage troubleshooting this way-and driving with no 02 sensors. You need some back pressure in there for your rings to seat correctly.

Just my .02

 

[Xeek]

yea, it was only the first 2 tries that it locked up, everything after that was cranking without doing the plugs to make it crank lol
between my run of sentences and my mind going crazy that it was all falling apart i may have been a little more difficult to understand



yes i know i need to put the cat on, but i needed gas in it badly. and i still need to find a place that sells the bungs to weld an o2 in.
to clarify i do have an o2 in there, but its only on the passenger side(mine needs a single o2 in the middle), and its the wrong kind.
does anyone know if lowes or anything like that sells weld-in o2 bungs normally? autozone has some but not in stock

 

[Ronin8002]

An exhaust shop in your area might sell you one.

 

[Xeek]

big al's? theres one a half mile from me
im assuming they would they drill the hole and weld it also?

 

[Ronin8002]

big al's? theres one a half mile from me
im assuming they would they drill the hole and weld it also?

I am sure they would. I don't think that would be very expensive.

 

[Xeek]

jds idea was to put it in the cat cause there wasnt much combined flow room on the y-pipe.
big als said no and sold me the bung. so i go home to take the right side y-pipe off so they can weld it on there, and it wont slide out cause the left side is tight. so i go to unbolt it, stick a socket on top and pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop on the starter cause i didnt unplug the battery cause im mad at big als

so i unplugged the battery now. no idea what got fried. now im pissed
and if i cant get power, im gonn have to put bags on my windows cause i rolled them down