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MyNameIsAric's 98 FULL width SAS

I will keep this first post updated with my progress so people don't have to weed through all the boring crap associated with these buildup threads.
So far I have:

Front axle:
Dana 60 35 spline kingpin high pinion from a 79 f-250/350
detroit locker
dedenbear knuckles
5.38 gears
alloy usa shafts
longfield u-joints
warn hubs (should have went with drive flanges)
high steer arms with full hydraulic steering

Steering:
2x8 double ended cylinder from surpluscenter.com
steering valve out of an old forklift
misc. hoses and fittings from surpluscenter.com

Rear axle:
Dana 60 30 spline low pinion from a 79 f-250/350 (should have went with a 14 bolt)
full spool
5.38 gears
Disk brake conversion

Tires/wheels:
16.5" hummer h1 8 bolt double beadlocks recentered with custom stazworks centers.
36x12.50 wrangler rt II 6 ply military bias tires(sucky but cheap)

Things I need still:
new rims and tires and hopefully she wont shake so bad at 60mph.


Got axles
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Got a new truck so i can dismantle the explorer and tow it around when i'm done.
Welded Diff covers
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Rear axle almost done
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Front axle almost done
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Rear axle under truck
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Welding up rear driveshaft (yes, it is square)
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Machined parts for the upper control arms
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Made coil buckets
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Made lower control links
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Mocking up Front axle and welded up hydraulic ram mount.
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Got myself a forklift orbital for my hydraulic steering
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welded on lower control arm mounts
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Dropped the front IFS
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Sent it to the scrap yard
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IFS gone
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Front axle starting to go in.
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off jackstands
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Took out the A/C system and cruise control. Also removed ABS brake controller, but I ended up having to put it back in later for the speedo to work.
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Mounted new/slightly larger fluid reservoir for the hydro system.
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Mounted the stock power steering cooler for the hydro system
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Got this mounted in the engine bay where the A/C junk used to be
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Had to chop down this thing first though.
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Made some tie rods out of 100% grade A beef.
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Installed hydraulic ram and tie rods.
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View of the filter, and you can see the high pressure hose running from the pump down to the steering valve.
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This is how i connected the stock steering wheel to the steering valve. 3/8" swivel
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Better view of the steering valve.
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Poor planning caused track bar issues
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Made a new track bar bracket
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Cut off first track bar bracket
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Plated for good measure
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Welded on new track bar bracket. Still had minor interference so i move the axle forward another 1/2"
Also started putting on shocks.
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Tacked a tone ring to the rear d60 carrier
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Reinstalled tone ring sensor so i can get speedometer back
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blah blah blah tidied things up and poof.... an explorer that can only go 55mph now. If you have questions, just ask or PM me.
 



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I have an idea, buy some el cheapo 8 lug rims and slip on some retread hummer tires on em, either the 36 bias ply or the 37" radial. The bias ply is 375 shipped new(are not retreads) and the radial is the same price but retreads. Thats my route of action.
 



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i'm thinking about the military 37, but i heard they are really stiff even when aired down. i'm pretty sure i'm gonna go pick up 5 rims from that guy by me and send them off to usa6x6 to be recentered, or to precision cryogenics(or something like that) if i can find the guy on pirate. i also need the centers i think.
 






nooooooooooo usa6x6 nooooooooooooo. very bad rep, and you prolly ont get your wheels till next year lol. Look at the tech page on puirate4x4, bella vista did a good right up on a company that did recentered hummer rims.

Remember, you get what you pay for.
 






mmmmmm h1

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and i put some primer on my rear dana 60 hubs
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i should be sandblasting the rims on monday before class.

I was thinking i would buy 1 center and try and recenter the h1 wheel myself, and if i am succesful, i will buy 4 more and do the rest. if i am not happy, then i will use the one i made as a spare and send the other 4 out to be done professionally.
 






can you get the h1 centers with new bolt patterns, say 5 on 5.5?
 






Yes you can. Theres a vendor on pirate that sells centers for a very reasonable price.
 






AH, Tha smell of a king pin 60

got my other set of axles today. only using the front, since i started workin on the othere rear i had already and they are essentially the same axle. Here is a picture.
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and here is a good picture of why h1 wheels do not fit so well stock. And there is a crack in this knuckle that i noticed:( .... so i'm just going to HAVE to get dedenbears (most likely, dont know of any other options):D
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you could buy stock knuckles for around 50-100.
 






How much did you pay for the D60?
 






1000 and got the matching rear with it... and 8 wheels/tires. 4 went to my buddy that helped me pick em up. and i have 8 pretty crappy tires on 4 pretty decent wheels and 4 pretty crappy wheels to get rid of. going to try and recoupe a little change by selling the lowpinion44 and 60 rear i'm not using.
 






Sounds like you got a pretty good deal on it.
 


















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dont like cherry:( ...they come in bluberry?
 






Okay Aric, here's what I've got for you. Unless Will county PDs dont care, you're gonna get harassed as **** for running FW on the road here. I ran my 91 with 6in of lift and 3in of body on 33s and 35s and I was stopped Many times. When I get home I can dig up lift laws, but my current bronco on 33s and 3.5 in of total lift are beyond the IL laws. Also about the mudflaps. In IL it's stated that the bumper must be wider than the wheel track. Furthermore, USA 6x6 is not where to go. I suck up the drive and head to danville and use a shop callled and if you dont want to go there attitude performance is closer but they're pricy. Big wheel has made my cage and done alot of other work on my bronco. Eric there is solid and does great work. Only down fall is the drive. I'd say runnin Humvee rims on the road around here is iffy... If the cops are busy in your town like they are my county, we wouldn't care. However, I'm willing to bet, it'd take alot of fighting to get them to pass. Not to rain on the parade, but IL is not big truck friendly. I've got friends that had 3/4 tons which have higher lift laws still get heavily hassled. Full widths on 37s is gonna attract ALOT of attention and alot of problems.
However, since I'm in the area, if I can give you any help, give me a shout...

Edit--Do not run a spool up front. Thats just a disaster waiting to happen. I ran lunch boxes in my 8.8 and d35 with good results, and it works well in my HP44. I've got a spooled 9in and let me tell you, when I move the bronco from the back yard to the garage, it gets torn up. It also chirps every waking moment when turning the bronco on the road... But that's how I bought the axles...
 






sn0border88: those were actually the ones i was looking at. pretty good price, i just hope shipping isn't killer.

RFR2212: I appreciate your concern, i actually plan on doing something for a drop down bumpers because there is that 24 or 27" bumper law, i think the frame has to be within 24" of the ground also. i have never heard the bumper width law before, but i'll believe you. cops in my area are more concerned with busting imports for loud exhaust. i got harrassed more when my truck was stock than i do now with it lifted. haven't had a front plate in 2 years, and the tires already stick out past the fenders and bumper with the 33's. what county are you in so i know where to stay away? haha. i guess we'll just see what happens.

as for the spool, I want it because it is cheap. If i am going to have a nonselectable locker, it might as well be a full time locker i dont have to worry about. it will bein the front so i can unlock the hubs while on pavement. and hydro assist is in the list of things to do so i can steer offroad.

eidt: as for the hummers, they are "D.O.T approved". in fact, i would be surprised if most cops even knew that the bolts were functional and not just for esthetics like streetlocks.
 






Yup, hummer wheels have a DOT stamp on em. SO if JD decides to pull you over, get out and show him the DOT sticker. Here in Ohio they could give a rats ass but i'll be building ine to conform.
 






spool question

my reason for running a spool in front is:
#1 its cheap
#2 if i ran the alternative(lunchbox or detroit) as soon as i put the truck in 4 wheel drive, the front is going to lock up just like a spool, so steering would be no different
#3 i plan on hydraulic assisted steering to push push my locked up 37-39" tires so steering should be a little easier no matter what i run.

i'm not an expert, so please school me on why spools are the devil. 034x4 put one in his rig and i dont think he has complained about it.
 



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as for the hummers, they are "D.O.T approved". in fact, i would be surprised if most cops even knew that the bolts were functional and not just for esthetics like streetlocks.

IIRC only the 12 bolt hummer rims are DOT approved the 8 bolts are not.
 






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