Pizza boss said he doesn't want me delivering in my Explorer if it's leaking.

[Fix4Dirt]

It would work for me but then he would know I am the one driving with a leak and he would remind me not to drive the Explorer since it's leaking. Need the pet pad installed and tapped underneath to the truck.

if it doesnt leak on his property and onto a mat, does it matter? or is it if it leaks on a customers driveway...

 

[DemonMudder]

As said, you're most common average for the X is like 16 mpg, if you seriously baby it may get 17 or 18 if you're lucky. But daily driving, probably 15-16 pretty much any of the three engines. Ford had some of the best turning radius' on their trucks, but mileage was not their skill point. That honda is going to be getting 20+ easy, up to you, but I'd definitely stick with that for the mileage, save a whole lot of cash. You can try little tricks like air intakes to help mileage, but you'd have to do a lot even then.
That exhaust epoxy is probably a good try maybe nab a mat and the tape too just in case, but I'd definitely try a sealant of some kind first.

@Fix4Dirt
Well, I myself wouldn't want some guy coming into my driveway pouring oil out, if it happens it happens though, I get it. His aint that bad though, but it's still a whole thing, they probably just dont want to get any complaints about oil in people's driveways and at the company, better safe than sorry and all.

 

[98FordLove]

if it doesnt leak on his property and onto a mat, does it matter? or is it if it leaks on a customers driveway...

I don't park on driveways. Well putting a mat under the truck each time would be a pain and at times i would forget. This is why I say I need to tape something like this under the truck. If I taped this to say the metal frame under the truck, it would have at least a 3" gap from it to the oil pan since the oil pan sits higher up. Would it still be a fire hazard?

 

[Turdle]

So, instead of 100 bux for fuel you are ok with the explorer using 160 ?

Plus the maintenance cost factor Honda vs Ford explorer.

Park the leaking fire hazard. Your cat is probably caked in oil. 2000 degrees plus oil equals poof

Your customers don't want spots in their driveway or street.

 

[DemonMudder]

I don't park on driveways. Well putting a mat under the truck each time would be a pain and at times i would forget. This is why I say I need to tape something like this under the truck. If I taped this to say the metal frame under the truck, it would have at least a 3" gap from it to the oil pan since the oil pan sits higher up. Would it still be a fire hazard?

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Possibly, at the very least smokey. Mine had a slight oil leak from the passenger side chain tensioner, leaked right into the exhaust pipe, causing the whole thing to smoke like the devil. Wasnt hurting, but it looked like it. So yours may do similar, if the mat doesnt melt or as said catch fire. I know you're not happy about it, but ya really should just do the pan, that way ya ain't got to worry about it later on, just get it dealt with. Did the same with mine, had an expensive fix, and now shes parked, has been for about 6 months till I can be 100% back at a job and save to have her fixed, pretty much needs a whole engine rebuild. Just my two cents before ya follow in my steps, dont redneck fix it, do it right, as said before, better safe than sorry. Know it aint what ya want to hear, but if those sealants dont work, just go for the pan, or park it till ya can.

 

[98FordLove]

So, instead of 100 bux for fuel you are ok with the explorer using 160 ?

Plus the maintenance cost factor Honda vs Ford explorer.

Park the leaking fire hazard. Your cat is probably caked in oil. 2000 degrees plus oil equals poof

Your customers don't want spots in their driveway or street.

I used the Honda 5 nights a week for deliveries for 10 months but then after I switched to the Explorer. It just puts so much wear and tear on the car and I didn't want to destroy the suspension on my Honda. Especially when I factor in that it's a car that still has low mileage and I plan on keeping it for a long time, whereas the Explorer may be on limited time due to age. Also maintenance is lower on the explorer since I don't care for it as well as the Honda. Use lower quality oil, lower quality oil filters, parts etc. And the Explorer has a new front end suspension as of a year ago. So I was willing to eat up some of my money to drive the Explorer to save the suspension on the Honda.

My check engine light will keep turning on every now and then saying how I have a faulty cat. It's been doing this for over a year now. Though I still changed all 3 o2 sensors it didn't do anything. My mech said to just keep driving it unless im willing to pay for a new cat.

 

[DemonMudder]

I used the Honda 5 nights a week for deliveries for 10 months but then after I switched to the Explorer. It just puts so much wear and tear on the car and I didn't want to destroy the suspension on my Honda. Especially when I factor in that it's a car that still has low mileage and I plan on keeping it for a long time, whereas the Explorer may be on limited time due to age. Also maintenance is lower on the explorer since I don't care for it as well as the Honda. Use lower quality oil, lower quality oil filters, parts etc. And the Explorer has a new front end suspension as of a year ago. So I was willing to eat up some of my money to drive the Explorer to save the suspension on the Honda.

My check engine light will keep turning on every now and then saying how I have a faulty cat. It's been doing this for over a year now. Though I still changed all 3 o2 sensors it didn't do anything. My mech said to just keep driving it unless im willing to pay for a new cat.

3 O2 sensors, on the X? Mine had four, thought the all did?

 

[98FordLove]

Possibly, at the very least smokey. Mine had a slight oil leak from the passenger side chain tensioner, leaked right into the exhaust pipe, causing the whole thing to smoke like the devil. Wasnt hurting, but it looked like it. So yours may do similar, if the mat doesnt melt or as said catch fire. I know you're not happy about it, but ya really should just do the pan, that way ya ain't got to worry about it later on, just get it dealt with. Did the same with mine, had an expensive fix, and now shes parked, has been for about 6 months till I can be 100% back at a job and save to have her fixed, pretty much needs a whole engine rebuild. Just my two cents before ya follow in my steps, dont redneck fix it, do it right, as said before, better safe than sorry. Know it aint what ya want to hear, but if those sealants dont work, just go for the pan, or park it till ya can.

I would have originally just done the pan but if it's true that my head is leaking too or the cat is about to die then I would just keep the truck for limited specific use and not put anymore money into it. It would suck to pay to have the pan replaced only to have the cat or head go months later.

I could sell it but i would miss it. I love using it to haul my gear when my business was operating (before Covid) and I travel gravel roads everyday so the Explorer sees it and not my car. This (and it being AWD) is why I got the explorer in the first place. Gravel dust on a white car will stain your paint. I found out 2 years ago when I took my Honda to get power polished. Even back then washing it almost everyday and dusting it (which was very tedious), it still took a toll on the paint. If my car was a beater car then I would just drive it all the time unless I need the extra cargo space of the Explorer.

My Honda is 12 years old and still in great shape. Maybe I start converting it into my beater and just not care for it's appearance anymore?

 

[94Eddie]

I don't park on driveways. Well putting a mat under the truck each time would be a pain and at times i would forget. This is why I say I need to tape something like this under the truck. If I taped this to say the metal frame under the truck, it would have at least a 3" gap from it to the oil pan since the oil pan sits higher up. Would it still be a fire hazard?

If you travel at higher speeds then anything you tape to the underside of the engine will likely be ripped off by the air resistance of it.

 

[98FordLove]

If you travel at higher speeds then anything you tape to the underside of the engine will likely be ripped off by the air resistance of it.

Even if the mat was tapped to the trucks frame on each side of the mat? I could be wrong but duck tape seems very resistant to air. I have my drivers side headlight held in by 3 pieces of all weather duck tape that i put on and it's held up well in the 5 months since putting it on. And in the last 5 months I probably put on close to 15k km on the Explorer.

 

[Mbrooks420]

Why do you keep insisting on going against everyone’s advice? Your truck is a fire hazard. It’s an environmental hazard. You’re knowingly and willingly dumping a QUART of oil out onto the ground a WEEK.

Taping a mat to the truck is nothing but a fantasy. It will not work. It’s dangerous.

Call the manufacturer of the tape and pig mat and see if they approve of your idea. I guarantee they will tell you not to do it.

 

[98FordLove]

Why do you keep insisting on going against everyone’s advice? Your truck is a fire hazard. It’s an environmental hazard. You’re knowingly and willingly dumping a QUART of oil out onto the ground a WEEK.

Taping a mat to the truck is nothing but a fantasy. It will not work. It’s dangerous.

Call the manufacturer of the tape and pig mat and see if they approve of your idea. I guarantee they will tell you not to do it.

I'm not going against peoples advice. I'm just saying that I would have done the pan awhile ago if I wasn't brought to my attention by a mechanic that my head "could be" leaking too and that the cat could be on it's way out.

So you're saying that as is right now the truck is a fire hazard? Why because the oil drips onto the exhaust or cat?

Where is the cat located? Just to verify if oil is dripping onto the cat or not.

 

[Mbrooks420]

If you’re leaking a quart a week the exhaust is surely wet. It’d be worse with a flammable towel strapped to it.

It sounds like this truck has 3 wheels in the scrapyard. With your extra gas expense it’d almost surely be cheaper to scrap the truck, and use that on a down payment on a beater Honda if you aren’t ready to convert your current Honda. Make the payments with your savings in fuel cost.

Hell, if you drove it for 2 years you could probably afford a professional paint job in fuel savings.

 

[94Eddie]

Even if the mat was tapped to the trucks frame on each side of the mat? I could be wrong but duck tape seems very resistant to air. I have my drivers side headlight held in by 3 pieces of all weather duck tape that i put on and it's held up well in the 5 months since putting it on. And in the last 5 months I probably put on close to 15k km on the Explorer.

At this point I am assuming you aren't interested in accepting good advice so try it and see what happens. There is a lot of difference between taping a headlight into a space it was made to fit in versus taping a mat in a location where it is very susceptible to tearing and buffeting at high speeds. Also, have some consideration toward the people driving behind you. If an oil soaked mat dislodges and hits the car behind you it can be a big problem for them. Say the mat hits their windshield gets oil on it, they hit the wipers, oil smears across the windshield and they can't see going at highway speeds. Just for the tape to stick to anything means the surface it is applied to has to be clean of oil, debris and dirt. You have a severe oil leak and drive on gravel roads. There likely isn't a single place under the engine bay where any tape will stick to anything.

 

[98FordLove]

If you’re leaking a quart a week the exhaust is surely wet. It’d be worse with a flammable towel strapped to it.

It sounds like this truck has 3 wheels in the scrapyard. With your extra gas expense it’d almost surely be cheaper to scrap the truck, and use that on a down payment on a beater Honda if you aren’t ready to convert your current Honda. Make the payments with your savings in fuel cost.

Hell, if you drove it for 2 years you could probably afford a professional paint job in fuel savings.

The last time I got under and checked, I don't believe the exhaust was wet. When I say I am losing a quart a week, remember that is with lots of driving driving doing deliveries for 30 hours a week and with other driving putting on about 750km on the truck a week. That's much more than what most drive a week.

But now I'm only doing deliveries 20 hours a week. You have convinced me not to do the mat tapped under it.

I have considered scraping the truck and am again right now. But it runs good and the last time I checked the frame, I could probably 2 years more out of it. I would rather sell it than scrap it though. It still a running truck.

 

[98FordLove]

At this point I am assuming you aren't interested in accepting good advice so try it and see what happens. There is a lot of difference between taping a headlight into a space it was made to fit in versus taping a mat in a location where it is very susceptible to tearing and buffeting at high speeds. Also, have some consideration toward the people driving behind you. If an oil soaked mat dislodges and hits the car behind you it can be a big problem for them. Say the mat hits their windshield gets oil on it, they hit the wipers, oil smears across the windshield and they can't see going at highway speeds. Just for the tape to stick to anything means the surface it is applied to has to be clean of oil, debris and dirt. You have a severe oil leak and drive on gravel roads. There likely isn't a single place under the engine bay where any tape will stick to anything.

You bring up a very good point. I am not going to do the mat underneath the truck. Selling the truck is a possibility. If I do this, I would surely miss it though even if I drive the truck much less and have to use my other car for deliveries (which I will be for the time being). And I wouldn't do the brake job on it. Or I do the brake job on it and keep it and just don't use it for deliveries and try to get one to two more years out of it.

Possible issues that can happen from now until one to two years from now, that would lead me to scraping the truck
1) The head goes.
2) The cat goes.
3) The truck chasis becomes rusted making the truck unsafe to drive.

I will say though, driving this truck under "normal amounts of usage" not 20 hours a week, I'd say that I would only lose 1/4 of a quart a week if that. Obviously doing deliveries it greatly increases the oil loss.

 

[donalds]

Is this fixed yet
Still no pictures

 

[Mbrooks420]

How much you drive is irrelevant to how much oil you’re pouring onto the ground.

If you truly drive so much the clear choice is a better vehicle.

Also, thinking newer trucks get worse mileage is just plain wrong. Any semi-modern SUV would do considerably better. Your OHV is incredibly inefficient.

 

[Josh P]

Pictures or it didn't happen.

 

[Mbrooks420]

Maybe………it’s time for a new boss.