Should I get this 3" bodylift for my 92 EB?

[Dannyboy]

Will someone please show me proof where a 3" body lift has failed on a truck? I know I have wheeled my 94 with a body lift very hard and never had an issue. I also know several other members who have ran body lifts for a long time, not once do I recall an issue.

 

[ShadowRaven]

Will someone please show me proof where a 3" body lift has failed on a truck? I know I have wheeled my 94 with a body lift very hard and never had an issue. I also know several other members who have ran body lifts for a long time, not once do I recall an issue.

I'm willing the bet the only real reason most say a BL is weaker than a SL is due to it being "the poor man's lift." Yes, a SL is stronger, that's obvious, but a BL would not be sold if it cannot perform as advertised. Thinking about it from a scientific perspective, the only real risk you have from a BL is shearing the new body bolts, which is extremely unlikely. I don't know this for fact, but I'm assuming the bolts are Grade 8 (or at least Grade 5), so you need a stupid amount of force to shear the bolts (we're talking thousands of pounds here). The nylon pucks are advertised at a 50000lb rating, which I believe in (they would be sued to death if they claimed this and someone died from it not being truth), so there's no issues there, whatsoever. Having done this lift myself, as well as examining all that goes into the lift, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to believe a BL is weak. In closing, the only risks you take are bolt shearing (highly unlikely) and/or puck breaking/cracking (even more unlikely). It all boils down to people believing the more you spend, the more you get. Perfect analogy: A mustang is a poor man's sport car (or so most believe). The reason for this: It's cheaper than other 'muscle' cars, so it must be ****. Human logic has been jaded by the belief that if it's cheap (in cost), it must be cheap (in product). This is not always the case, so those who think BLs are **** and they can't be safe/reliable/work are not looking at them from a scientific standpoint, therefore, they are just plain wrong. I'll be awaiting an argumentative point, because I know it's coming...

 

[FROADER]

I'm willing the bet the only real reason most say a BL is weaker than a SL is due to it being "the poor man's lift." Yes, a SL is stronger, that's obvious, but a BL would not be sold if it cannot perform as advertised. Thinking about it from a scientific perspective, the only real risk you have from a BL is shearing the new body bolts, which is extremely unlikely. I don't know this for fact, but I'm assuming the bolts are Grade 8 (or at least Grade 5), so you need a stupid amount of force to shear the bolts (we're talking thousands of pounds here). The nylon pucks are advertised at a 50000lb rating, which I believe in (they would be sued to death if they claimed this and someone died from it not being truth), so there's no issues there, whatsoever. Having done this lift myself, as well as examining all that goes into the lift, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to believe a BL is weak. In closing, the only risks you take are bolt shearing (highly unlikely) and/or puck breaking/cracking (even more unlikely). It all boils down to people believing the more you spend, the more you get. Perfect analogy: A mustang is a poor man's sport car (or so most believe). The reason for this: It's cheaper than other 'muscle' cars, so it must be ****. Human logic has been jaded by the belief that if it's cheap (in cost), it must be cheap (in product). This is not always the case, so those who think BLs are **** and they can't be safe/reliable/work are not looking at them from a scientific standpoint, therefore, they are just plain wrong. I'll be awaiting an argumentative point, because I know it's coming...

That was a lot of typing for your answer to Danny's question. Easy answer would have been "No, I have no proof". :

 

[ShadowRaven]

That was a lot of typing for your answer to Danny's question. Easy answer would have been "No, I have no proof". :

Lol, I'm always long-winded. I wanted to type all that as a scientific backing to my statements. I knew if I said there's no proof, some moron would say "NOT UH! BL'S SUUUUUUUCK!" And nothing would get resolved It's the same thing as someone who thinks Chevy's are better than Ford's... when you ask them why, they just respond "Cus they are, duh." Then you punch them in the head for being an idiot :

 

[Dannyboy]

Well considering I've wheeled some of the hardest trails all over the country and everything broke BUT the bodylift, I'd just like to say the proof is in the pudding.

Sure, it's not gaining any suspension travel, but if you want to raise your truck to clear larger tires, it's definitely not a bad way to do it. Plus your engine and frame stay lower so there is less weight actually being raised for the whole center of gravity argument.

 

[MrQ]

I forgot about the 1st offer of like 220$ I think which wont get me anything I need, I would probably keep it with my money from work and just give the usual 25$ a week towards the LS, rather than giving it all up at once...

Idk, im having 2nd thoughts now, I really wanna do the BL, but some say it weakens everything, others say dont waste your time or money on it, PLUS the fact that im scared that when we do this, im gonna need a whole lotta new parts because mines so rusted on the undercarriage.

I might just go with the guy whos got the iPod Touch + 100$ if anything, if I dont get a cash offer, or I might just tell the guy I want rotors, pads, and something else.....I would say ball joints, but I havent the slightest clue on how todo those, but with all that, all id need todo are shocks lol.

Ball joints for the 92 or the 95? Two completely different setups. I hope you have at least a Haynes manual. It will answer most of your basic questions.

 

[BrianDye]

Nope, theyre for the 92, but I dont have a manual yet.....I really dont know why because I know they tell all lol I just never get out to getting one.

I do feel alot more confident about getting the BL done after reading the last few posts, but I remember someone asked how good I am at fabricating......Eh....not too good, well im actually a very good welder, best in my high school according to the shop teacher, but I dont have that class anymore so i cant do anything like that.

 

[BrianDye]

So I come home today around 3:15 from school, to get ready for work (3:30), come back outside, and notice some clear liquid with a steady drip coming from somewhere down by the T-CASE on my 92, and couldnt really get into it, so I threw the plate on my 95 and took it to work, and then drove it later on to the mall, walmart, girlfriends, gas station, etc and shes running and driving great still which is good, but yeah, I just got home, checked all my fluids (92), trans fluid was a little low but the liquid was CLEAR not red or green or nasty looking; EDIT: I actually didnt check the oil, sh*t! But im not too sure what it is, my brakes are good, trans is shifting smooth like usual, starts right up fine, stays below like 1/3 of the temp gauge, everythings as usual, so im gonna go out tomorrow morning and put it on ramps and see what I cant figure out.

 

[celly]

Deja vu all over again.

 

[BrianDye]

Nope....nothing close lol.

 

[Currency]

Sure, it's not gaining any suspension travel, but if you want to raise your truck to clear larger tires, it's definitely not a bad way to do it. Plus your engine and frame stay lower so there is less weight actually being raised for the whole center of gravity argument.

The center of gravity argument is a good one that is a clear winner in my opinion.

As for the head unit, I would personally sale it if mine were better and I had no use for it. You could keep it depending on if you may need it in the future.

As for my system setup, depends on my money situation. I would love a set of JL W7's but I'd lose it all if someone were nice enough to knock out my back glass because my insurance company is nice enough not to cover those types of items even with full coverage.

So maybe a set of ascendant audio mayhem 18's.

http://www.ascendantaudio.com/mayhem.php

Then I get back into the same frame of mind as thinking about the JL's. If they get stolen I'm sol

 

[MrQ]

So I come home today around 3:15 from school, to get ready for work (3:30), come back outside, and notice some clear liquid with a steady drip coming from somewhere down by the T-CASE on my 92, and couldnt really get into it, so I threw the plate on my 95 and took it to work, and then drove it later on to the mall, walmart, girlfriends, gas station, etc and shes running and driving great still which is good, but yeah, I just got home, checked all my fluids (92), trans fluid was a little low but the liquid was CLEAR not red or green or nasty looking; EDIT: I actually didnt check the oil, sh*t! But im not too sure what it is, my brakes are good, trans is shifting smooth like usual, starts right up fine, stays below like 1/3 of the temp gauge, everythings as usual, so im gonna go out tomorrow morning and put it on ramps and see what I cant figure out.

Clear liquid, aye? Like maybe water?

AFAIK, there is no true clear liquid from an explorer , the closest would be

a)fresh brake fluid (brown tint)
b)fresh oil (yellow tint)

 

[yostyexplorer94]

Will someone please show me proof where a 3" body lift has failed on a truck? I know I have wheeled my 94 with a body lift very hard and never had an issue. I also know several other members who have ran body lifts for a long time, not once do I recall an issue.

My body lift is still holding strong with no issues.

 

[MrQ]

Will someone please show me proof where a 3" body lift has failed on a truck? I know I have wheeled my 94 with a body lift very hard and never had an issue. I also know several other members who have ran body lifts for a long time, not once do I recall an issue.

Umm, don't you think this is beside the point? If the guy looks around on this forum enough (which by his post count apparently he does) he should see tons and tons of safe and well done body lifts.

The question is should he get the one offered or go for money.

 

[BrianDye]

Clear liquid, aye? Like maybe water?

AFAIK, there is no true clear liquid from an explorer , the closest would be

a)fresh brake fluid (brown tint)
b)fresh oil (yellow tint)

I know thats why im stumped, it wasnt water, I could tell just by looking at the consistency, it did look like "fresh oil" but thats not possible, because its been right around that 3k line since I had it changed.

Im gettin up right now, and still wakin up then im gonna go look, it sucks I cant really start it and let it sit, my gas gauge is below the RED on E, so I gotta B-line it for the gas station when I start it lol

 

[Currency]

I know thats why im stumped, it wasnt water, I could tell just by looking at the consistency, it did look like "fresh oil" but thats not possible, because its been right around that 3k line since I had it changed.

Did you smell it? I don't recommend a taste test but I always smell any liquid leaking from my ex. But my leaks are easy ones, kinda, front main seal and radiator.

Edit: I just realized how bad that sounds. I see that line in someone's siggy soon lol

 

[BrianDye]

Lmfao yea, I did smell it, it really didnt have a smell, and the next day, there was no spot or anything on my driveway....it was like it was water.

Idk, but im happy now my rear brake lines leaking again

 

[MrQ]

I thought it was brake fluid.

 

[celly]

Brian, word on the street is you're selling the '92 now? Wazzup with that? :scratch:

 

[BrianDye]

Nope not sellin it, just posted it on craigslist to see if anyone would trade a nice ranger or something for it.

(Curious to see what kinda offers id get)