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Looks like a hell of a trip overall...here's the burning question for me, how did the ranger do up there RangerX? I'd like to get up there someday after I do the cage and a few other things.
 



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The Ranger did great, thanks mainly to the new locker up front. It made a world of difference. My biggest problem was stalling (manual trans). My damage was passenger side front blinker and rear taillight, due to running as tailgunner fro the group, and therefore not always having a spotter and not having a copilot.

Dave, if you ever plan to do this trail, you will NEED a front locker, and REALLY NEED to lose as much ride height as possible, I'm not kidding.:eek:
 






When they say that every j**p built has to run the rubicon before it makes it to production, I dont think they are running it throught the Rubicon you guys just went through. Good job guys, looks like one heck of a trip. To bad there werent more pictures.
 






Originally posted by dman726749
are all the guys with the second gen ex's still running the control track system or did you get a new system? just wondering


I lost the control track system when I put an Atlas II transfercase in. Gerald has modified his to allow him to disengage his front end because he is running a locker in the front diffy. You will have your truck in 4lo and will not get out of it until the trip is over. Control track does not work in 4lo.

DB_1, RangerX made it look so easy, which I attribute not only to his truck, but to his ability as a driver, and one of the best drivers I know.
 






Originally posted by Texplorer
When they say that every j**p built has to run the rubicon before it makes it to production, I dont think they are running it throught the Rubicon you guys just went through. Good job guys, looks like one heck of a trip. To bad there werent more pictures.

Well ,yes it is the same Rubicon, but they don't tell you how many rocks they had to stack to get them over each obstical. I had to stack some rocks to get over some of the obsticals, and I also took acouple of by-passes.
Brian Kennedy and Bill haven't put up their pictures yet, so there's still more to come.
 






If I remember right they also took the front bumper off the liberty to get it through and it was basically on the end of a strap the entire time. Maybe that was the bmw that they took the bumper off of and used ramps to get it over rocks.

Also guys did any of you lose an air matress or something check out this thread. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159727

MAtt
 






Dont get me wrong, I am in no way saying that a stock j**p can do the same thing you guys just did. What I was trying to say is that now I think j**p is lying when they say that. There is no way a stock j**p can do what you guys just did. Unless being strapped the whole way by an Explorer:D
 






Stock J++ps do the Rubicon every year during the Jamboree. They pre-run the trail and make everything easy by piling up rocks and dirt to smooth out the trail. It sounds bad, but the J**p is the reason the trail is still open. They even own some of the land the trail is on. The trick is to go before the Jamboree because the snow pack wipes the trail out every year.
 






Are there any pictures of Fakrwee's ankle twisted around :)
I am so sick.

Tough one Tom. Glad to here you are OK and made it through the surgery OK. I have seen that injury many times before. Best advise is to take a ton of Advil or what ever pain meds they gave. And most importantly keep it iced. Ice it as much as the Doctor recomends and then some.

Hope to see you Hopping soon.
 






Originally posted by Hammer
Are there any pictures of Fakrwee's ankle twisted around :)

That looks like the sick type of request that an EMT would make :D

Naw, just a couple of him in the stretcher that I made, none of his foot. It was closer to 90 degrees hanging off than 45 and the weight of the foot hung it down off of the end of his ankle bone nearly an inch. You could tell that the skin and meat was the only things keeping his foot on. It was pretty bad. Tom was one tough mother - I would have been screaming but he just took the pain and was even smiling some of the time. Brian made sure that we gave him nothing for the pain because if we did, then the hospital wouldn't give him anything once he got there. So he just had to tough it out. He nearly blacked out early on but was conscious the whole time. I'm gonna call him tonight to see how he is doing.
 






Are all that went on this trip locked up front?

Because of the severity of the trip and each rig was different I'd love to hear where some of the rigs excelled and where they did not do so well.
 






All were locked up front except Ray. I'll let Ray tell his own story. He is an excellent driver but his open front diffy and those 4" drop brackets with skid plate on the rear of his torsion bars shot his breakover angle and did handicap him on the trail.

My new front locker made a HUGE difference and took me up obstacles I wouldn't have even attempted a month ago. If I had walked the trail before going in, I wouldn't have even taken my vehicle in there, but locked front and rear with the 35's I not only made it; I did well enough that I don't recall taking a strap a single time. Make no mistake; I used the heck out of my rocksliders and skidplates, but I made it. Any Explorer without rocksliders will totally destroy its rocker panels and doors on this trail. Don't even think of going there without rocksliders.

In a week or so I am going to update my registry page article and also post a thread on the effects of the front locker for a second generation Explorer. I don't think very many second-gen owners have put the front NoSlip in yet. If they had any clue at all just how much difference it made there would be a hundred doing it right now.

RangerX did extremely well and also noted a huge improvement from his new front locker. He is also one of the best drivers I wheel with and experience makes a lot of difference on a trail like this. I was behind him on a couple of very steep hills and noticed that his rear limited slip let loose and wouldn't help him, but his front pulled him up. If he was still LS in front he would not have made it on at least three of those occasions that I watched.

Brian's newly built up Explorer performed extremely well. He was the front Explorer, so sometimes it was he that had to "experiment" a time or two to find the right line, but once on it, he also went through without needing help.

Tom's Zuki performed awesome, what can I say. What a rig. There was a few times that his short wheelbase made things "interesting" and at one time because of the short wheelbase he nearly rolled it on a tough obstacle at the base of Cadillac Hill while Brian was riding shotgun with him. (I did notice that Anthony walked instead of rode with Tom often on those types of hills :D ). However most of the time his SWB had quite an advantage over ours while negotiating through the tight turns and rocks on the trail. I cannot count the number of times that I had to pin the middle of my rockslider up against the side of a rock and use it to pivot around the rock. Tom just motored happily through without a care in the world.
 






GJarrett

Glad your happy with my locker it worked great for me too.
 












Originally posted by Hammer
Are there any pictures of Fakrwee's ankle twisted around :)
I am so sick.
I got a shot of him getting loaded into the ambulance, and his foot is featured pretty promimently.:eek:
Unfortunately, all my pics from the trip are on film, and my scanner isn't working.:mad:
Soon as I find someone around here to scan them, they will be up!:D
 






Originally posted by jobunn
Are all that went on this trip locked up front?

Because of the severity of the trip and each rig was different I'd love to hear where some of the rigs excelled and where they did not do so well.

Well, unfortunatly I was the truck that needed help the most. I don't have a front locker, and running 33 AT's did hinder me alot, but what really gave me a problem was my skid plate. Yes it did save my undercarrage, but it also got me hung up on the rocks about 4 times (at least) and we resorted to stacking rocks to get me off the obstical. Having a truck that weighs as much as an Explorer, you really shoud have some sort of L/S, but even better a locker to do this trail.
Gerald clearly had the advantage over my truck with his locker and the 35 MT's. Having a front locker is a very big differance. The only advantage I had over Gerald is I can crawl alittle slower than he can. I think that I'm a decent driver, but he's a better driver than I am.
The one thing that excelled was my rock sliders. If you do not have rocksliders, you will come out of there with severe body dammage.
Both Gerald and I agree that had we not had sliders, we would have come off that trail ready for the junkyard.
 






Originally posted by RangerX
Unfortunately, all my pics from the trip are on film, and my scanner isn't working.:mad:
Soon as I find someone around here to scan them, they will be up!:D

Duh :rolleyes: ... request a CD with the photos when you get them developed and start POSTING SOME PICS! :D
 






:bounce: RAY!! :bounce:

Thanks Guys (and girls) for making this a great trip for me -- Ouray, then Moab, and then to Rubicon. Boy, they always said there is a world outside of South Carolina, now I know they are right!

Tom - hope you are doing better and hope I'll get to run with you some time soon!

ashli
 



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Looks like you all had a great time, except Tom. Sorry to hear about that and I hope you make a full recovery, Tom.

I wish I could have been there, but unfortunately, I am stuck in Norfolk, VA and my Ex isn't even done yet, almost, but not yet.
 






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