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Rick

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At Truck Haven you are lucky if you can talk to someone on a CB that's on the opposite side of a hill... With a radio like this you could talk direct from Truck Haven to Ocotillo Wells.

Less range, but still better than a CB for trail communications:

http://www.radioddity.com/us/baofen...480mhz-dtmf-ctcss-dual-dand-fm-ham-radio.html

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$36.99

And don't forget you need a license!! The test is EASY you get the exact questions to practice on and you can practice online:

http://aa9pw.com/radio/

When you are ready to take the test check here:

http://www.arrl.org/find-an-amateur-radio-license-exam-session
 



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Cool! I took the practice test and missed 7, I am going to give it day to sink in and try again. :thumbsup:

I have to admit I did kind of "cheat" as a lot of the terminology used can cross over from other areas of experience without really knowing what the answer really applied in this environment . That is why I would rather study a bit. ;)
 












VHF radios like the ones I pictured cannot communicate with CBs which are HF radios.

The VHF mobile above has 65 watts FM... no static at all. A stock CB puts put 4 watts AM. AM is what everyone uses for trail communications.

As far as HF ham radios communicating with CBs, I'll let you Google that.
 






There are also free study guide apps for your smartphones. That is what I use and I have found them to be easier to use than the online ones. I still suck at the test though but I am going to try this year to get my license. I already have the radio equipment.
 






As far as HF ham radios communicating with CBs, I'll let you Google that.

I figured it was a long shot and I was headed out the door when I read this.

My buddy that I 4wheel with a lot had his CB "tuned up". A CB right out of the box is lucky to be putting out the full 4 watts it's spec'd to. A CB shop here in town boosted his to close to 10 watts (I know... Legal-schmegal.....). We've been parked next to each other talking through our open windows and I can hear stuff in his CB that I can't hear on mine. He'll get chatter all day from other people while my radio only picks up him- and basically line of sight only.
 






I can hear stuff in his CB that I can't hear on mine. He'll get chatter all day from other people while my radio only picks up him- and basically line of sight only.

Yet another reason I don't like CBs for trail communications.

There have been times when the "skip" is stronger than the guy just up the trail, or on the other side of a hill.

Having a stronger signal from your CB isn't always better either since you can overload the receiver in other vehicles while traveling in groups.

There's good reason that police and fire depts. haven't used HF radios since probably the '60s or '70s. Reliable, crisp, clear communications.

Another major feature of the VHF/UHF ham rigs is the ability to use mountaintop repeaters to extend your range.
 






The other crappy thing is that only a few of the "some what regulars" that I 4wheel with have CBs. No one has ham. We've talked about it, but I guess it would be pointless for one to do it and not the others.
 






very cool, ive always wanted to get one, but the only reason i stick with cb is that more people tend to have them. ive actually found someone to pull me out of a jam with a CB, and that was a struggle in itself, i wonder how many people in my neck of the woods run ham or other types of radios other than CB.
 






I got my ham license without knowing anyone else who had one. At the time Char and I were going out in the desert exploring on our own. When I heard about the no-code technician class license I jumped at it.

With all of the ham radio repeaters around our state, there's practically no where we could go that would be out of range. That gave us a lot more confidence when we were out a long way from civilization. Cell phones are worthless in the remote areas.
 






A ham radio seems great, in terms of being able to get in touch with civilization should something happen out in the middle of nowhere, but if no other vehicles on the trail have ham radios, and your ham radio can't transmit or even receive CB frequencies, it's not going to do very well as a device to communicate directly with others while on the trail. If your vehicle is about to fall off a cliff and nobody else has noticed, that ham radio isn't going to get the kind of immediate help you need.

Maybe having a ham radio in the vehicle and using a portable CB radio lets you do both and not have to choose one or the other. Surely there are some other good solutions out there, I would think long-haul truckers would make extensive use of ham and CB among other communication options.

I'd also say that portable 2-way radios are quite an effective solution for trails, road trips, and the like.
 






Truckhaven has changed a lot as far as communications. When I first started going out there, your cell phone was a brick. no service anywhere. Now I can get service on my cell anywhere out there and surf the net better then sitting in my living room.:(

That said, yes the CB's can suck out there with all the hills, we can never talk to camp. Even a ridge over is worthless. However CB's are cheap, and everyone has one, because they are the norm.

One question, can you get a unit that has CB channels/frequency in it as well? If I could find that then I'm on board.:thumbsup:
 






That said, yes the CB's can suck out there with all the hills, we can never talk to camp. Even a ridge over is worthless. However CB's are cheap, and everyone has one, because they are the norm.

The walkie talkie bafoung is almost the same cost as a CB, and has more power and range than any CB radio I know..

One question, can you get a unit that has CB channels/frequency in it as well? If I could find that then I'm on board.:thumbsup:

Legally, NO.
 






The walkie talkie bafoung is almost the same cost as a CB, and has more power and range than any CB radio I know..



Legally, NO.

So you would still need to have both?:thumbdwn:

Well at least the portable is doable
 


















Will either of these radios work on the frequencies that KOH and other desert racers use?

I would double check with Brian1 as I'm no expert but I beleive the answer is yes..

...The race channels are from 150.000-155.000 range (simplex) I believe. You would probably want to also purchase the usb/software kit for the handheld..Most of the handhelds in use out there are of the 5wt. variety.

..There are some conversations currently going on about radio issues right now at koh as there are about 400 race teams and about 40 race channels not counting staff and support channels plus EMS shared channel..

..Since the KOH race has gotten that big, they are talking about teams getting their own frequencies just for the races so getting one of these radios that you can set multiple channels up for monitoring would be a plus.

..Heck, we could have our own EF channel out there so when someone is trying to burn their Ranger down, we can quickly get a camera over their to capture it..:p:
 












Hate to be a doom and gloomer, but I couldn't imagine living in CA without amateur radio... What do you do when the communications network goes down in an earthquake? How would you let your loved ones know where you are, or if you're ok should the bridges go down and you can't get home??

In severe emergency situations the cell phone network is handed over to emergency responders and civilians are locked out...

http://www.radiowrench.com/pilot/cares/careintr.html

http://www.hamdepot.com/states/ca.asp


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The Government Emergency Telecommunications Service (GETS) is a nationwide landline priority telecommunications service currently serving more than 110,000 users. GETS is designed to make maximum use of all available telephone resources if outages occur. GETS facilitates NSEP communications by providing emergency personnel access and priority processing in the local and long-distance segments of the public telephone network.

After Hurricane Katrina, for example, the communications infrastructure throughout the affected states was devastated. Many cellular towers were damaged and some local telephone systems were no longer functional. Michael Paterson, emergency disaster services director of the North and South Carolina Division of the Salvation Army, was deployed to the Salvation Army's divisional headquarters in Jackson, Mississippi. There, he supervised all Salvation Army operations in Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi. In addition to communicating with his own response personnel, Paterson's responsibilities included communicating with representatives from other organizations. "In many instances, using either of my two cell phones, each with a different provider, would be prohibitive due to a circuits-busy message," Paterson said. "Even when I was using a landline phone, some of the same issues prohibited making calls. These were the times that I would pull out my GETS card from my wallet and dial the access number, code, and destination number. My calls always went right through. My GETS card is part of my personal preparedness equipment and is with me at all times."

A recent report from NCS regarding GETS use during Hurricane Katrina documented more than 32,000 calls completed during the first 12 days of the disaster period, with a 95 percent call completion rate.

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If you live in any kind of disaster prone area, ham radio is a great tool... Having it for offroading is just a bonus.
 



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