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Torquey 4.0 Build

JMan689

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Alright so i'm going to rebuild my OHV 4.0 most likely this winter and with it being a trail rig i just want torque.

I'll be going with the 410 Comp cams and so far, thats it :D untill i get some input on what to do to the motor.

Any certain bolt ons i should go with? Should i look into finding a BBK blower?
 



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do u have any bolt ons already?
i mean obvious cost efficient bolts being intake exhaust and headers. find some shorties for like 250-300 bucks
 






do u have any bolt ons already?
i mean obvious cost efficient bolts being intake exhaust and headers. find some shorties for like 250-300 bucks

Stock motor with a snorkel.
 






yea id definately go with headers and exhaust u can get some pretty good on both ends for less than 600 bucks ez. check out www.summitracing.com and u can specify ur search.....but then ill bet im preaching to the chior with this lol
 






If it were me, I'd take that money and spend it on a doubler. Torque at the top of the driveline will mean that the rest of the drivetrain is going to suffer more strain while torque further down the drivetrain means everything upstream will suffer less strain. Primarily, I am talking about the tranmission since the A4LD doesnt really last that long on average. And if you have $$ left over, then regear the axles to whatever deepest gear you can find (since its a trail rig after all).

In addition, say this camshaft and exhaust gives you 10% more torque. Well a doubler gives you 140% more torque for probably the same amount of cash :)

And in reality of off roading, you want peak torque very low on the RPM band since you'll already be spinning tires at higher RPMs (which means more torque wont do anything). I'd look at the specs (torque to RPM graph) for that new camshaft first to see if that extra torque its going to give you is even within the RPM range that you off road in -- cauz if its not, then the most you might get out of that camshaft is an unstable idle.

As for the headers, I would save the cash because power/torque isnt about pipe diameter but exhaust velocity -- like engines with forced induction. Plus I think most of the advantage of an aftermarket exhaust will probably, again, be outside of your normal operating RPM range (since this is a trail rig).

Overall, if you really want torque, I would suggest you either get a doubler, or swap to a diesel since diesels have gobs of torque at the lower RPM range. And dont forget to reagear ;)
 






^couldn't have said it better myself.
 






If it were me, I'd take that money and spend it on a doubler. Torque at the top of the driveline will mean that the rest of the drivetrain is going to suffer more strain while torque further down the drivetrain means everything upstream will suffer less strain. Primarily, I am talking about the tranmission since the A4LD doesnt really last that long on average. And if you have $$ left over, then regear the axles to whatever deepest gear you can find (since its a trail rig after all).

In addition, say this camshaft and exhaust gives you 10% more torque. Well a doubler gives you 140% more torque for probably the same amount of cash :)

And in reality of off roading, you want peak torque very low on the RPM band since you'll already be spinning tires at higher RPMs (which means more torque wont do anything). I'd look at the specs (torque to RPM graph) for that new camshaft first to see if that extra torque its going to give you is even within the RPM range that you off road in -- cauz if its not, then the most you might get out of that camshaft is an unstable idle.

As for the headers, I would save the cash because power/torque isnt about pipe diameter but exhaust velocity -- like engines with forced induction. Plus I think most of the advantage of an aftermarket exhaust will probably, again, be outside of your normal operating RPM range (since this is a trail rig).

Overall, if you really want torque, I would suggest you either get a doubler, or swap to a diesel since diesels have gobs of torque at the lower RPM range. And dont forget to reagear ;)

Ah Iz, but what diesel motor could i possible throw in the X? because if i could do it for the right price, consider it done.

And i'm not looking for tons of torque at like 4k rpms but more off idle torque would be nice. And it will also have a double later on, but while i'm rebuilding the motor i'd rather make it a little more powerful than just rebuild it to stock spec.

And believe me, it will have a deep deeep gearset once its on 1tons but its gotta stay streetable untill i can get rid of the 94 and get a Powerstroke.
 






Ah Iz, but what diesel motor could i possible throw in the X? because if i could do it for the right price, consider it done.
The Cummins 4BT -- sometimes came in Ford Rangers but most of the time, people yank them from "bread vans"

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The Cummins 4BT -- sometimes came in Ford Rangers but most of the time, people yank them from "bread vans"

Ahh.. excellent. WAIT a CUMMINS motor came in a FORD? That was the little 2.3L Diesel? Maybe i should just wait till Ford releases the "baby powerstroke" for the F150.
 






no Cummins or diesel EVER came in an American version of the Ranger. The European Rangers got and still get the 2.5 (I think it is the 2.5) 4 cylinder Powerstoke.
 






Sorry not a Cummins, but the Mitsu 4D55 (also found in Dodges)
 






Alright, well i thought about it, and while it would be awesome to swap in a Diesel, i really dont want to deal with all that, at least not now. So i'm just going to rebuild the 4.0. Anything i can do to really get some torque out of it though?
Anyone make heads for the 4.0 or should i just have the stock ones ported?
Should i go for the 10:1 compression with the 410 cam or no?
Should i just go about a normal rebuild and throw on the basic bolt ons and a cam?
Should i bother with headers?
 






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