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Night Shade: Adventure trailer build thread.

Discussion in 'RV / Trailers / Camping' started by gmanpaint, May 15, 2018.

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    Good use on using material at hand.
     
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    Good parts use, the seals are special. BTW, nobody makes the hatch seal now, and only Ford had it until they obsoleted it around 2011.
     
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  4. gmanpaint

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    Wow, no kidding. I will keep an eye out for good ones at the yards! Lol
     
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    Picked out the Dual battery charger I want. REDARC's BCDC charger with dual Isolate, solar charger & Regulator, DC-DC, & low voltage amplifier/regulator from Alt/start battery. These are fan less sealed smart charging units. Waterproof & dust proof, and can be installed in any orientation. Works in sub freezing temps and up to 176F. The higher charge rate with managed voltage will help with battery life. These batteries are very expensive consumables, and I want the longest life span I can get out of one.

    The model used in this product video is for a single Aux (House) battery. I will get the BCDC1240D unit for dual batteries over 200 Ah. It's a larger 40 amp unit.



    Now to save for it.
     
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    So I just finished reading thru your trailer build and....this thing's awesome! Definitely put a lot of thought into it. Makes me want to build one and I don't even have a use for it!!!

    I did want to mention something to you about an issue you brought up about a year ago (half way into this thread) and that was related to a lubricant for the scissor jack on top.
    Try this: https://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Evinrude-OMC-508298-Triple-guard/dp/B001KYH6AW

    This is used in outboard motors mostly on the prop shafts. It is really thick and sticky and doesn't come off easily. I run this on my boat and the same grease is still on the prop shaft after all summer of running the lakes. Might be a good option that won't get wind/rain-blown off, or affected much by extreme heat.

    Keep up the excellent work!
     
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  7. gmanpaint

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    Well, first off @kmack, congrats on making it through the entire thread. I bet that took some time! Your still kicking, so it didn't kill you at least. :thumbsup: Thanks for the kind words.

    Thanks for the idea on that grease too. I have used that stuff on the Jet ski throttle cable in the past, because of it's water proofing ability, and never even thought of it for these jacks. What my main concern with lubricating that rooftop jack was dripping onto the paint from high heat. It's black, and will be in some hot climates now and then. Since that post was made, I have already bought a couple different lubes for it, but have yet to apply them. DPFE and Silicone sprays made for RV equipment. If those don't hold up, I will test that Johnson/ Evinrude grease on something in the heat, to see if it melts and drips.
     
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    Yeah, it took a couple days! But I had some leisure time here at work... :popcorn:
     
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    Just curious. What is your total project weight so far?
     
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    Haven't officially weighed it yet. Best guess is just under 2k as set up currently. That's including the spare tire, kitchen stocked, Roof top tent, awning, misc gear & accessories, and packed tongue box with batteries. If I stripped it down to just the trailer itself, guessing around 1200 lbs unsprung, and 1500 with axles and wheels.

    It's not a light weight trailer by no means, but it won't fall apart either. It's made to out live me. :D

    Goal is 2500 loaded wet. Time will tell how that goes.
     
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    You have constructed a well built trailer. To be half the weight of your tow vehicle you are doing good.
     
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    Tow rig has been modified to help in towing. Both on road and off. Bigger engine, trans mods, and gear reduction case, along with suspension upgrades.

    It's been quite a project, and not one for somebody who isn't willing to sacrifice a couple of years of time and resources. Lol
     
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    Was going through my camp gear, and deciding what to sell off or give away, and came across my Old Coleman folding Kitchen. This is 15 years old at a minimum, and maybe 20. It's in like new condition still. You can't buy this style anymore from them. This unit has a working stainless sink top, with a nice faucet & drain. It's frame, brackets, racks are all powder coated in a silver vein. Solid work tops, and HD latches. It even has a motion sensor LED light for the underside of the lid, that works! A pole for hanging a bigger light, paper towel holder, utensil hanging pegs, small 2 shelf storage rack on the lid for whatever, and a nice big rack shelf underneath. I forgot how compact this is, and how big it gets when fully open. Heck, It even has laminated assembly instructions still there.

    I decided to keep it, and store it in the trailer, as it packs up neatly in a carry case, that will strap to the rear deck perfectly. It will come in handy when there is more than 2-3 of us using this trailer as the main camp base for cooking & what not. Room for one or two more grills, wash station, and lots of room to store items. It folds up in a couple of minutes, easy breezy.

    If I don't want to hook up the instant hot water heater to it, I have a pressurized Propane Zodi Hot water heater tank, that will hook up to the faucet, or can use a water jug and gravity feed it with a garden hose. I like having more than one option, and that's 3! lol

    C Kit closed up.jpg C Kit 1.jpg C Kit 2.jpg C Kit 3.jpg C Kit 4.jpg C Kit hot water setup.jpg

    I understand now why I never got rid of this thing. It's just too cool to part with. Can throw it in the back of the rig to use w/o the trailer too.

    The basement has become an parts staging & storage area for all things trailer & tow rig. It's like my 2nd shop with HVAC control. The Bar looks like a cluttered parts counter at Autozone. LOL!


    Will be chopping away at this thing a little at a time over the winter into next spring. Won't have many updates to share, as I have other things I'm working on, and can only invest in one thing at a time. I like to spread it out a bit. :D

    Happy Halloween EF !!
     
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    Pulled the trigger on the Heavy Duty, ARK XO 750 Down under "Jockey wheel" (as they call it). Got it installed last night. I went the cheap route, and didn't get the more expensive black version. Same unit, just not black, so......... yeah.

    The Good:
    It is super easy to work, smooth articulation and fast cranking action. It's solid with all 1/4" steel, Grade 5 hardware, four heavy duty wheel bearings, huge powder coated wheels with nice tires, and with it on the tongue beam the trailer is now easy to move around. No more crank handle to strap up as it is removable with a magnet connection. (Just hope I don't forget it and lose it on the road/trail) It has a 10" crank articulation, with 4 height positions for the unit. I have it set as low as it can go, and it takes 8.5" of lowering to get the wheels to lift the trailer to level. Not much left to raise it higher if needed. Lifted problems, only lifted people understand. LOL

    The Bad:
    It has a clamp. This clamp is huge. It's universal for 4 sizes of frame heights. From 3" to 6" tall. I needed the 4" setting. The way they have it made, you need to keep the center of the pivot to the center of the frame rail. This drops the clamp way below the frame rail. I lost 2.5" of clearance because of it. The top section raises well above the frame rail too. Nothing I can do about this but weld it directly to the frame rail. As of now, I don't want to do that. the backside of it has two channel pieces for the back half of the clamp. These are massive long, and I still need to cut the excess off, now that It is on.

    With it being on the tongue rail vs the tongue box frame, I lost a few right turn radius degrees. It will hit the rigs back bumper as is on a tight turn. I think I need to make a bump stop for it so that doesn't happen. Installed it on the pass side because I am keeping the 2k jack that's on the Dr side, to lift it higher than this thing allows if needed. I still have to cut off the welded tube mount for the old wheel jack, and paint.

    Overall thoughts:
    I like it for the beef, and ease of operation, but the mounting design, still needs work for smaller frame heights. I would like to see a weld on mount version to make it smaller, and regain the underside loss. Bolt on is more $$ for them with a larger demographic, but even the cheaper versions offer both weld & bolt on.

    Now that it's on, I wish I wasn't Scrooge Mc'Duck, and got the black version. This thing is shiny. So shiny, that any future blemish, will stick out like a turd in a punch bowl.


    Jockey closed with wheels upright.jpg Jockey clamp drop under tongue.jpg

    Before the old wheel stand is removed......How is this for redundancy?


    All 3 stands on.jpg

    Jockey backside of clamp.jpg Jockey wheels down.jpg Jockey handle off.jpg

    Because of the mounting location, I had to get the upgraded 4 ga charging wire ran to the battery first. That took 5 times as long as installing this thing!

    I did notice that this unit is the latest model as they just recently went away with a spring loaded lock pin for the wheel base storage position. It has a welded on pin now, and you have to crank the wheels upward all the way to lock it in. You can see the pin holes for it by the tires, in the last picture. Will trim up the long clamps this weekend.

    Shop is cleaned up, and transformed for a new project starting this weekend. Had to set up the big table, and a new wire spool on the welder for this one. :D
     
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    I was surprised to get to the bottom of the post and the Jockey wheel wasn't painted. lol.

    New welding project? Sounds big and ominous.
     
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    I was typing "How much you want for the Coleman Kitchen?", then I kept reading your post. I like to travel light when I go on expedition type trips, but that is cool.
     
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    Yeah, Way to many moving/spinning/sliding parts on that thing to paint it. My original thinking when I bought this version was, the black is more expensive, and it will probably get chipped on the trails. Talked myself right out of that in a hurry! (Haha/cry)

    Current project is more overland related stuff, but for the tow rig. That one is going to take a couple- three- four- weekends, and evenings. Got a jump on it this evening actually. :)

    That old camp kitchen is pure gold. I have tried to get rid of it, but just can't! lol I looked at the new ones available at Cabella's, and they don't compare in quality.

    Rant on:
    Remember seeing "Made In USA", on long lasting quality goods made here, and was on just about everything? Not anymore :(
    Somebody needs to teach them Chinese, to at least translate better. I wanted a small wall rack to hang a couple garden tools, and got this answer to a dimension question..... "OH, you wan the 3ft house for the garden tool, it's for ease of mine, and fit best in space we provided for all in last year chicken soup sale." "Thank you, look again!"
    Rant off:
     
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    Was picking up some supplies at the supply gettin place, and seen this 1200w/2400w Peak inverter, on a clearance rack as I was walking out. I grabbed it, went back in line, and thought they made a mistake with the final price. They told me everything on that rack was half off the marked down sticker price. :eek: Deal!!

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    I paid $15. :D I looked it up and found them on Ebay for $90+$20 shipping. I think they are a discontinued unit though. I have used this brand in the past, and they worked great. Only a Modified sine wave, but that's alright at this price.

    This includes the dual remote power outlet with USB, and on/off switch for the unit. Can mount this thing, then install the remote elsewhere, with the 10 ft cables supplied for it.

    I should have grabbed a couple more at that price. Might go back and grab another. lol

    Edit: I went back and grabbed the last one they had. Lol
     
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