Clear Wheels Coming To Drifting?

[Rick]

CLEAR WHEELS COMING TO DRIFTING? TOP DRIFTER DAI YOSHIHARA THINKS SO
The Forgiato Radurra “glass” wheel from D’Vinci turned everyone’s head at the SEMA Show, including Formula D driver Dai Yoshihara. The Pacific Rim Motorsports driver, who finished fifth in the Formula D championship this year, was blown away by the prospect of burning up tires around the two-inch thick, clear polycarbonate core. Apparently he wasn’t the only one. A D’Vinci spokesman said another Formula D pilot, Rod Millen, had also seen the wheels and wanted a set.
Although the wheels have little concession for brake cooling and haven’t endured track torture, the aesthetic possibilities are exciting to both drivers.

 

[FROADER]

Well, it's a good thing for the drifters that they don't use the brakes much. Cooling won't be much of a problem for them. I thought those wheels looked really cool too from your SEMA pics.

 

[davesexplorer]

But will they handle the stress and power?

 

[FROADER]

I guess we'll find out when they actually do some track testing.

 

[Dopler174]

Well, it's a good thing for the drifters that they don't use the brakes much. Cooling won't be much of a problem for them. I thought those wheels looked really cool too from your SEMA pics.

Are you sure they don't use their brakes alot? For a true drift you haft to have to break the front wheels lose also...True drift.

 

[Monty]

Are you sure they don't use their brakes alot? For a true drift you haft to have to break the front wheels lose also...True drift.

Wow, that isn't true at all, that is called losing control, and in an explorer, that is called flipping.

A true drift is the rear end breaking traction and moving faster than the front. The extra force moving outward forces the car to "swing around the corner" Which is why drifters that drive their car only change out the REAR TWO TIRES only.

As far as using the brakes alot, it differs. In Formula D they don't stay on them like is nescessary in the D1GP...(Japanese)
Drifters can power over (Accelerate hard after turning into the corner)
Clutch Kick (Depress Clutch and release half way through turn to break traction)
Faint (Sway away from corner, then toss the weight back towards the corner and apply throttle)
OR the method in question Brake drifting (Going too fast into the corner, apply brakes to break traction and then getting on the throttle to steer around the corner)

Drifting is all about steering the car with the right foot. So i think the brake heat is minor. And if you all didn't notice...drifting is my favorite autosport.

 

[Anime]

Sounds like they're just throwing names around for publicity. Maybe Rod Millen wants a set for a trailered show car to show off the suspension better. I doubt any serious racer is interested in throwing some purely cosmetic wheels with an unproven safety record on their race vehicle. Maybe for show drifting with free wheels. I bet it'd look really cool with red-hot brakes.

It sure would be nice if they'd start making more wheels from non-metallic materials, though, for more strength with less weight.

 

[Dopler174]

Wow, that isn't true at all, that is called losing control, and in an explorer, that is called flipping.

A true drift is the rear end breaking traction and moving faster than the front. The extra force moving outward forces the car to "swing around the corner" Which is why drifters that drive their car only change out the REAR TWO TIRES only.

As far as using the brakes alot, it differs. In Formula D they don't stay on them like is nescessary in the D1GP...(Japanese)
Drifters can power over (Accelerate hard after turning into the corner)
Clutch Kick (Depress Clutch and release half way through turn to break traction)
Faint (Sway away from corner, then toss the weight back towards the corner and apply throttle)
OR the method in question Brake drifting (Going too fast into the corner, apply brakes to break traction and then getting on the throttle to steer around the corner)

Drifting is all about steering the car with the right foot. So i think the brake heat is minor. And if you all didn't notice...drifting is my favorite autosport.

It doesn't matter wether it's FD or D1GP. It's still slow. As far as your power over, clutch kick, faint, and "braking method" driving styles, talk to Keisuke Hatakeyama. You can't do ANY of those in a FF car. For a FF, the entrance is the same as an FR. It all depends on how fast you can enter a corner and throw the tail out sideways. You adjust your drift and cornering angle with the gas and steering. When you reach the clipping point, you use the gas and tap the e-brake to maintain the drift. Exit the drift on the gas and tapping on the e-brake once again. All of this must happen without lifting off the gas. Your foot should on the gas the whole time, either at full or half-throttle. Like I said...True drift is all wheels. Breaking traction in corners while maintaining control. I personally prefer a grip car.

 

[Dopler174]

I ran a search for the clear wheels. The center is 1.5 or 2” polycarbonate, chemical hard coated both sides. No break dust on the outside, but the inside would suck to clean. A lot of higher end cars have vents that run from the bumper to the inside of the wheels just for brakes, so under normal driving, they shouldn't get that much more hot. But Gosh, all that work to clean just one wheel. And imagine the stray scratches that you would more than likely get on them from annual cleaning. Forget it. Give me a set of black steelies and I'm good. Here is a link straght to the wheels: http://www.forgiato.com/radurra/about.htm#clear

 

[FROADER]

Are you sure they don't use their brakes alot? For a true drift you haft to have to break the front wheels lose also...True drift.

Yes, yes I am sure, and I know what a true drift is. Since they just break the rear end loose using the steering and throttle control to drift around the turns, again yes, yes I am sure.

 

[dkkne]

Here is a picture of them on a motorcycle. I love it!!!

I like them on cars too , but cleaning WOULD suck...

 

[FROADER]

Those look sick, but you're right, cleaning would suck. all the brake dust would be on the inside. F that!

 

[Rick]

Next years product... tear offs for clear rims

 

[Dopler174]

Yes, yes I am sure, and I know what a true drift is. Since they just break the rear end loose using the steering and throttle control to drift around the turns, again yes, yes I am sure.

OKAY...Quick lesson in stuff nobody knows here. A b18c5 is a type R Integra motor rated over 200 CHP. A ef is a 88-91 civic. GVWR is 3155 lbs for a off the floor DX. Front wheel drive. The car that I was speaking of from my last post is this car with this motor. (Japanese circuit spanker!) I know that you have NO clue how that car would drive. (I know because I flipped mine end over end at 90 mph.) Holding the throttle 50-100% would break the wheels lose with no problem. Now entering a turn to create a "drift" @ 40-60 mph, would force all four wheels to break lose. It's called Initial Drift. If you still don't believe me and want to stay in the closet for FR rear wheel parking lot skidding. That's fine. I'm tired of arguing.

 

[410Fortune]

Come on you guys good pads dont make that much dust
besides it just gives you a reason to rotate more often....
I wonder how easy that plastic is to get surface scratches

 

[Nate1]

Yeah it should be no time until people make high heat stick on films for "peel off" cleaning like Rick said...

The wheels look great on cars with good looking wheel wells and nice brake packages, but its going to get annoyingly stupid when every honda and nissian around town is pimping these wheels with their milk-cap disc brakes.

 

[FROADER]

OKAY...Quick lesson in stuff nobody knows here.

That's fine. I'm tired of arguing.

First of all, thank you for ass-you-me-ng that I don't know anything about honda motors. (I had an H22A1 ((Prelude motor)) in my reduced weight 92 Accord EX, which is rated at 195hp and 158ftlbs stock, and mine sure wasn't stock. ) With that said, I do understand how FWD cars drive, no matter how much they weigh and how much HP they have. Having friends in high school that were "fast and furious" before the movies, helped out a in that dept. When they started having the "legal" street races at Pomona for everyone (so they wouldn't do it illegally anymore), my friend Darin Urabe had the fastest civic in So. Cal.

Anyway...when you mention "drifting" most people think of what they see on t.v. which is RWD high HP cars that don't use the brakes that much during a race. Also, I never said that they don't use the brakes at all. I said, and I quote:

Well, it's a good thing for the drifters that they don't use the brakes much.

Who was arguing anyway? You questioned me (^^that sentence right there) and started talking about "true drift". I responded with an answer, and now we're arguing?

 

[410Fortune]

I know clear spinners! if they catch the light just right you could see them spinnin!

 

[Dopler174]

Who was arguing anyway? You questioned me and started talking about "true drift". I responded with an answer, and now we're arguing?

Hold your horses Toto. I wasn't talking about just you. F&F was a poor excuse for the newer generation of car tuners. Also. A CB chassis was a huge difference from an EF. Do you own an EF? I never said you didn't know anything about CB's. So un wad you underwear and lets make friends.

I know clear spinners! if they catch the light just right you could see them spinnin!

??? I'm trying to put that together in my head...If D'vinci would make them in a 14 or 15, I could see them holding @ the same pressure a steel wheel or a aluminum wheel could. The are three piece wheels.

 

[FROADER]

Hold your horses Toto.

Now your talking about the difference in chassis? This was about if drifters use brakes a lot or not because of these wheels.

So un wad you underwear and lets make friends.

Nice way to solve things too.























































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