One of the troubles with a non-face to face discussion I have noticed is that sometimes it can be difficult to "read" something like sarcasm. No harm actually meant here. As for the "attitude" remark, that stems from seeing a serious bit of "why the heck should I care what happens" running rampant over the last few years, esp. the last 4-5 years. Some people actually DO care, and end up trying to get others to pay attention to what is going on around them because of the "blanket effect" that usually follows. I didn't mean to end up turning this into a "threadjack".