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Date:
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
Bureau of Land Management
[UT-062-01-1220-AA]
Notice of Travel Restrictions
AGENCY: Bureau of Land Management (BLM), DOI.
ACTION: Notice of Travel Restrictions, Moab Field Office, Utah.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
SUMMARY: This notice places restrictions on travel by off-road vehicles (ORV's)
and mountain bikes on specific public land administered by the BLM Moab Field
Office. These actions are necessary to halt ongoing impacts and prevent future
degradation of resource values. They are being implemented on an interim basis
to protect resource values and public safety, pending revision of the Resource
Management Plan (RMP) for the area administered by the BLM Moab Field Office.
This notice also affirms and describes previous travel restrictions that remain
in effect.
DATES: This notice is effective January 22, 2001, and shall remain in effect
until modified or the RMP is amended.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Russell von Koch, Resource Advisor, BLM Moab
Field Office, 82 East Dogwood Avenue, Moab, Utah 84532 or telephone
435-259-2100.
SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: In 1985, the Grand Resource Area RMP left the
majority of the public land currently administered by the Moab Field Office as
"Open to Off-road Vehicle Use."
Since publication of the plan, specific public land areas administered by the
Moab Field Office have become destinations for travel by off-road vehicles
users and mountain bikers. Cross-country travel off established roads and
trails by motorized vehicles and mountain bikes is causing damage to scenic,
cultural, soil, vegetation, and wildlife habitat resources in the high use
areas identified below and, in some cases, is causing or threatens to cause
considerable adverse effects to those resource values. Short-cutting, making
parallel routes, detouring around challenging segments, and widening routes
threaten the integrity of existing routes, reduce their value for commercial
recreation and special events, and make them less attractive for recreation
use. The proliferation of multiple routes off long established roads and trails
also contributes to confusion among users as to their location on the ground
and has led to more frequent search and rescue activity.
On several historic, interpretive, or recreational single-track trails, certain
uses are incompatible with the protection of significant resource values or
involve safety or management concerns. Specific actions are necessary to manage
these routes.
New Travel Restrictions, Moab Travel Management Area (MTMA)
Travel by ORV's and mountain bikes, on public land in five areas administered
by the Moab Field Office, is now limited to existing roads and trails, except
where more restrictive designations apply as described below under Existing
Designations. Cross-country travel in these five areas, collectively referred
to as the Moab Travel Management Area (MTMA), is prohibited, except for travel
by mountain bike and two-wheel motorcycle on established slickrock riding areas
(Bartlett Wash slickrock area, Tusher Canyon slickrock area, and slickrock
areas along the Monitor and Merrimac and Lower Monitor and Merrimac trails),
where such use does not further disturb vegetation or soils. To protect public
safety and enhance user experience, BLM will provide maps of, and sign and mark
recommended routes.
Under this action, approximately 245,642 acres currently designated as Open to
ORV travel will be managed as ORV and mountain bike Travel Limited to Existing
Roads and Trails. This change involves 25 percent of the land currently Open to
ORV use and 13 percent of the total public land within the Moab Field Office.
The intent of these year-round ORV designation changes is to protect natural
resource and scenic values from the adverse effects of cross-country travel,
maintain the integrity of established travel routes, and provide for public
safety until the RMP is revised.
MTMA 1 (approximately 15,031 acres, in 3 parcels) is northwest of Moab along
the boundary of Arches National Park. It includes all public land south of
Township 22 S, west of Arches National Park, east of U.S. Highway 191 and north
of the private land at the mouth of Moab Canyon.
MTMA 2 (approximately 189,939 acres) is northwest of Moab. It includes all
public land west of U.S. Highway 191; south of the Canyonlands Field Airport,
the Mancos shale land already limited to existing roads and trails, the Levi
Well Road, and the Tenmile Point Road; east of the public land already limited
to existing roads and trails along the east side of the Green River rims, and
north of the northern boundary of Canyonlands National Park, the block of State
and Private land around Dead Horse Point State Park and Potash, and the land
north of Utah Highway 279. Land inside this boundary (in South Sevenmile Canyon
and the Colorado Riverway), where ORV travel is already limited to designated
roads and trails remains so designated.
MTMA 3 (approximately 28,266 acres) is west and south of Moab. It includes all
public land west of U.S. Highway 191; north of the southern rim of Kane Creek
Canyon and the land on Hatch Point already designated as limited to existing
roads; and east and south of the Colorado River. Land in the Behind the Rocks
Wilderness Study Area (WSA), which is closed to ORV use (subject to valid
existing rights), and within the Colorado Riverway, where ORV use is limited to
designated roads and trails, remains so designated.
MTMA 4 (approximately 6,558 acres) is northeast of Moab along the Entrada
Bluffs Road. It includes an area bounded on the south by a one-half mile wide
corridor along County Road 105 (Entrada Bluffs Road) and on the north by land
already limited to existing roads and trails along the Dolores River.
MTMA 5 (approximately 5,848 acres) is northeast of Moab along the Utah/Colorado
border. The area, which includes May Flat, is approximately 8 miles long and 2
miles wide. It is bordered by areas where ORV travel is currently limited to
existing roads and trails on the north and west; private land to the southwest;
the Colorado River on the south, and the Colorado-Utah state line near Rabbit
Valley on the east.
Interpretive Trails Closed to Motorized and Mountain Bike Travel
The Sauropod Dinosaur Trackway Interpretive Trail, and the Mill Canyon Dinosaur
Interpretive Trail are closed to motorized travel and mountain bike use to
prevent resource damage to paleontological resources, scenic values,
vegetation, and soils.
Single-Track Trails Closed to Motorized Travel
The following single-track trails are closed to motorized travel to prevent
further damage to scenic values, soils, and vegetation along these narrow
trails and to provide for public safety:
(1) The entire Portal Trail from Jaycee Park to the top of Poison Spider Mesa;
(2) the Hunter Canyon Rim Trail from the drill hole at the end of the Hunter
Canyon Rim ORV route to the Kane Creek Road;
(3) the Hidden Valley Trail from its trailhead in Spanish Valley to the
boundary of the Behind the Rocks WSA.
Implementation
Maps showing all current Moab Field Office ORV designations are available for
public review at the Moab Field Office. The designations are also shown on a
map on the Moab Field Office's website at http://www.blm.gov/utah/moab BLM
will provide public land users with information about travel restrictions using
brochures, signs, and bulletin boards with maps at major entry areas. It will
protect key areas from further cross-country travel using signs and simple
barriers as appropriate. Enforcement actions will be taken as necessary. BLM
will provide maps of, and mark and sign recommended routes.
Future Planning
These travel restrictions are an interim measure to protect resource values and
route integrity by prohibiting cross-country use and use on the specific
single-track trails identified above until the RMP is revised. Revision of the
RMP will address long term travel management across a range of management
options.
Existing Designations
Except for those formerly Open areas where travel is now Limited to Existing
Roads and Trails, this notice does not change the ORV designations made through
the RMP or previously published Federal Register travel notices covering the
public land administered by the Moab Field Office. These designations are
affirmed and described below. The travel designation map on the Moab Field
Office website shows all applicable travel designations.
Closed Areas
The Behind the Rocks Wilderness Study Area, Negro Bill Canyon, and the east
side of Westwater Canyon are closed to ORV use subject to valid existing
rights. The Windwhistle and Hatch Point Campgrounds, the Canyonlands, Needles,
and Anticline Overlooks, and the Onion Creek sensitive plant site are closed to
ORV use off developed roads. The Black Ridge Wilderness Area is also closed to
ORV and mechanized travel by act of Congress through the Colorado Canyons
National Conservation Area and Black Ridge Canyons Wilderness Act of 2000.
Limited to Designated Roads and Trails Areas
ORV Travel in the Mill Creek and East Mill Creek areas and the Colorado
Riverway is limited to designated routes. ORV and mountain bike travel in the
Sand Flats Recreation Area, the Kens Lake area, the Sevenmile Canyon area, and
the NW \1/4\ of Section 24 and the SW \1/4\ of Section 13, T. 25 S., R. 20 E.
S.L.M. in the Little Canyon area is limited to designated routes.
Limited to Existing Roads and Trails Areas
The 1985 RMP designated the Mancos shale areas in the Cisco and Green River
desert areas; the Colorado, Green, and Dolores river corridors; portions of the
Canyon Rims Recreation Area, and the area between Dead Horse Point State Park
and the Colorado River as limited to existing roads and trails.
Exceptions
The travel restrictions in this notice do not apply to wheelchairs, water
craft, military, fire, emergency, or law enforcement vehicles used for
emergency purposes, vehicles expressly permitted by the BLM, or BLM vehicles
required for official use, and are subject to valid existing rights.
Authority: Pub. L. 94-579, E. O. 11644, E. O. 11989, 43 CFR 8341.2, 43 CFR
8364.1
Dated: January 12, 2001.
Sally Wisely,
State Director.
[FR Doc. 01-1595 Filed 1-19-01; 8:45 am]
BILLING CODE 4310-DQ-U
=====
Brad Ullrich
Land Use Editor, Off-Road.com
http://www.off-road.com/land
Vice-Pres. Rock Garden 4 Wheelers, Farmington, NM
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> > Pacific Northwest 4 Wheel Drive Association
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[Edited by GJarrett on 01-26-2001 at 01:18 PM]
Subject:
Fwd: Moab/BLM
Date:
Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:39:00 EST
From:
Dewzuki@aol.com
Reply-To:
Offroad@offroadlist.com
To:
Offroad@offroadlist.com
Subject:
Moab/BLM
Date:
Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:06:46 -0800 (PST)
From:
"Paul W." <a4xnut@yahoo.com>
To:
NW Trails <nwtrails@egroups.com>, xjdigest <xj@digest.net>, "Jeep-OffM- Road" <jeepoffroad@jeepwire.com>
CC:
Dan-home Starc <danstarc@aa.net>, Lori Taylor <zero_it@yahoo.com>, Ron Morgenthaler <bultaco123@greatnorthern.net>,
Mike Leibold <everettpowersports@email.msn.com>, Dewey Marler <Dewzuki@aol.com>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Putman <pnwwadir@earthlink.net>
> To: <mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient
hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 7:41 PM
> Subject: moab /blm
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
Bureau of Land Management
[UT-062-01-1220-AA]
Notice of Travel Restrictions
AGENCY: Bureau of Land Management (BLM), DOI.
ACTION: Notice of Travel Restrictions, Moab Field Office, Utah.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
SUMMARY: This notice places restrictions on travel by off-road vehicles (ORV's)
and mountain bikes on specific public land administered by the BLM Moab Field
Office. These actions are necessary to halt ongoing impacts and prevent future
degradation of resource values. They are being implemented on an interim basis
to protect resource values and public safety, pending revision of the Resource
Management Plan (RMP) for the area administered by the BLM Moab Field Office.
This notice also affirms and describes previous travel restrictions that remain
in effect.
DATES: This notice is effective January 22, 2001, and shall remain in effect
until modified or the RMP is amended.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Russell von Koch, Resource Advisor, BLM Moab
Field Office, 82 East Dogwood Avenue, Moab, Utah 84532 or telephone
435-259-2100.
SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: In 1985, the Grand Resource Area RMP left the
majority of the public land currently administered by the Moab Field Office as
"Open to Off-road Vehicle Use."
Since publication of the plan, specific public land areas administered by the
Moab Field Office have become destinations for travel by off-road vehicles
users and mountain bikers. Cross-country travel off established roads and
trails by motorized vehicles and mountain bikes is causing damage to scenic,
cultural, soil, vegetation, and wildlife habitat resources in the high use
areas identified below and, in some cases, is causing or threatens to cause
considerable adverse effects to those resource values. Short-cutting, making
parallel routes, detouring around challenging segments, and widening routes
threaten the integrity of existing routes, reduce their value for commercial
recreation and special events, and make them less attractive for recreation
use. The proliferation of multiple routes off long established roads and trails
also contributes to confusion among users as to their location on the ground
and has led to more frequent search and rescue activity.
On several historic, interpretive, or recreational single-track trails, certain
uses are incompatible with the protection of significant resource values or
involve safety or management concerns. Specific actions are necessary to manage
these routes.
New Travel Restrictions, Moab Travel Management Area (MTMA)
Travel by ORV's and mountain bikes, on public land in five areas administered
by the Moab Field Office, is now limited to existing roads and trails, except
where more restrictive designations apply as described below under Existing
Designations. Cross-country travel in these five areas, collectively referred
to as the Moab Travel Management Area (MTMA), is prohibited, except for travel
by mountain bike and two-wheel motorcycle on established slickrock riding areas
(Bartlett Wash slickrock area, Tusher Canyon slickrock area, and slickrock
areas along the Monitor and Merrimac and Lower Monitor and Merrimac trails),
where such use does not further disturb vegetation or soils. To protect public
safety and enhance user experience, BLM will provide maps of, and sign and mark
recommended routes.
Under this action, approximately 245,642 acres currently designated as Open to
ORV travel will be managed as ORV and mountain bike Travel Limited to Existing
Roads and Trails. This change involves 25 percent of the land currently Open to
ORV use and 13 percent of the total public land within the Moab Field Office.
The intent of these year-round ORV designation changes is to protect natural
resource and scenic values from the adverse effects of cross-country travel,
maintain the integrity of established travel routes, and provide for public
safety until the RMP is revised.
MTMA 1 (approximately 15,031 acres, in 3 parcels) is northwest of Moab along
the boundary of Arches National Park. It includes all public land south of
Township 22 S, west of Arches National Park, east of U.S. Highway 191 and north
of the private land at the mouth of Moab Canyon.
MTMA 2 (approximately 189,939 acres) is northwest of Moab. It includes all
public land west of U.S. Highway 191; south of the Canyonlands Field Airport,
the Mancos shale land already limited to existing roads and trails, the Levi
Well Road, and the Tenmile Point Road; east of the public land already limited
to existing roads and trails along the east side of the Green River rims, and
north of the northern boundary of Canyonlands National Park, the block of State
and Private land around Dead Horse Point State Park and Potash, and the land
north of Utah Highway 279. Land inside this boundary (in South Sevenmile Canyon
and the Colorado Riverway), where ORV travel is already limited to designated
roads and trails remains so designated.
MTMA 3 (approximately 28,266 acres) is west and south of Moab. It includes all
public land west of U.S. Highway 191; north of the southern rim of Kane Creek
Canyon and the land on Hatch Point already designated as limited to existing
roads; and east and south of the Colorado River. Land in the Behind the Rocks
Wilderness Study Area (WSA), which is closed to ORV use (subject to valid
existing rights), and within the Colorado Riverway, where ORV use is limited to
designated roads and trails, remains so designated.
MTMA 4 (approximately 6,558 acres) is northeast of Moab along the Entrada
Bluffs Road. It includes an area bounded on the south by a one-half mile wide
corridor along County Road 105 (Entrada Bluffs Road) and on the north by land
already limited to existing roads and trails along the Dolores River.
MTMA 5 (approximately 5,848 acres) is northeast of Moab along the Utah/Colorado
border. The area, which includes May Flat, is approximately 8 miles long and 2
miles wide. It is bordered by areas where ORV travel is currently limited to
existing roads and trails on the north and west; private land to the southwest;
the Colorado River on the south, and the Colorado-Utah state line near Rabbit
Valley on the east.
Interpretive Trails Closed to Motorized and Mountain Bike Travel
The Sauropod Dinosaur Trackway Interpretive Trail, and the Mill Canyon Dinosaur
Interpretive Trail are closed to motorized travel and mountain bike use to
prevent resource damage to paleontological resources, scenic values,
vegetation, and soils.
Single-Track Trails Closed to Motorized Travel
The following single-track trails are closed to motorized travel to prevent
further damage to scenic values, soils, and vegetation along these narrow
trails and to provide for public safety:
(1) The entire Portal Trail from Jaycee Park to the top of Poison Spider Mesa;
(2) the Hunter Canyon Rim Trail from the drill hole at the end of the Hunter
Canyon Rim ORV route to the Kane Creek Road;
(3) the Hidden Valley Trail from its trailhead in Spanish Valley to the
boundary of the Behind the Rocks WSA.
Implementation
Maps showing all current Moab Field Office ORV designations are available for
public review at the Moab Field Office. The designations are also shown on a
map on the Moab Field Office's website at http://www.blm.gov/utah/moab BLM
will provide public land users with information about travel restrictions using
brochures, signs, and bulletin boards with maps at major entry areas. It will
protect key areas from further cross-country travel using signs and simple
barriers as appropriate. Enforcement actions will be taken as necessary. BLM
will provide maps of, and mark and sign recommended routes.
Future Planning
These travel restrictions are an interim measure to protect resource values and
route integrity by prohibiting cross-country use and use on the specific
single-track trails identified above until the RMP is revised. Revision of the
RMP will address long term travel management across a range of management
options.
Existing Designations
Except for those formerly Open areas where travel is now Limited to Existing
Roads and Trails, this notice does not change the ORV designations made through
the RMP or previously published Federal Register travel notices covering the
public land administered by the Moab Field Office. These designations are
affirmed and described below. The travel designation map on the Moab Field
Office website shows all applicable travel designations.
Closed Areas
The Behind the Rocks Wilderness Study Area, Negro Bill Canyon, and the east
side of Westwater Canyon are closed to ORV use subject to valid existing
rights. The Windwhistle and Hatch Point Campgrounds, the Canyonlands, Needles,
and Anticline Overlooks, and the Onion Creek sensitive plant site are closed to
ORV use off developed roads. The Black Ridge Wilderness Area is also closed to
ORV and mechanized travel by act of Congress through the Colorado Canyons
National Conservation Area and Black Ridge Canyons Wilderness Act of 2000.
Limited to Designated Roads and Trails Areas
ORV Travel in the Mill Creek and East Mill Creek areas and the Colorado
Riverway is limited to designated routes. ORV and mountain bike travel in the
Sand Flats Recreation Area, the Kens Lake area, the Sevenmile Canyon area, and
the NW \1/4\ of Section 24 and the SW \1/4\ of Section 13, T. 25 S., R. 20 E.
S.L.M. in the Little Canyon area is limited to designated routes.
Limited to Existing Roads and Trails Areas
The 1985 RMP designated the Mancos shale areas in the Cisco and Green River
desert areas; the Colorado, Green, and Dolores river corridors; portions of the
Canyon Rims Recreation Area, and the area between Dead Horse Point State Park
and the Colorado River as limited to existing roads and trails.
Exceptions
The travel restrictions in this notice do not apply to wheelchairs, water
craft, military, fire, emergency, or law enforcement vehicles used for
emergency purposes, vehicles expressly permitted by the BLM, or BLM vehicles
required for official use, and are subject to valid existing rights.
Authority: Pub. L. 94-579, E. O. 11644, E. O. 11989, 43 CFR 8341.2, 43 CFR
8364.1
Dated: January 12, 2001.
Sally Wisely,
State Director.
[FR Doc. 01-1595 Filed 1-19-01; 8:45 am]
BILLING CODE 4310-DQ-U
=====
Brad Ullrich
Land Use Editor, Off-Road.com
http://www.off-road.com/land
Vice-Pres. Rock Garden 4 Wheelers, Farmington, NM
________________________________________________________________________________
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> > Pacific Northwest 4 Wheel Drive Association
> > http://www.pnw4wda.org
> >
> >
>
>
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[Edited by GJarrett on 01-26-2001 at 01:18 PM]
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I just got off the phone with the Moab BLM. I was assured that no trails were closed, but rather the restrictions are being placed to make sure people stay on the trails. As long as we don't wander of and get lost we'll be okay.
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Good thing they didn't close any trails. It will be no problem sticking to the trails.
How hard is the Kane Creek trail?? I know it does not seem to be on the list for runs but I am just wondering in case some may have extra time. I really need to get the book!!
How hard is the Kane Creek trail?? I know it does not seem to be on the list for runs but I am just wondering in case some may have extra time. I really need to get the book!!
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Good thing our "friend" Bill didn't have enough time to "steal" all the land. 70% of Utah is now under governments care.
Anyway, not like I'm taking sides or something, this whole thing just made me mad a bit.
See you all there, I can't wait.
Anyway, not like I'm taking sides or something, this whole thing just made me mad a bit.
See you all there, I can't wait.
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If you really want to get your blood boiling, visit http://www.off-road.com/land
Now *THAT* will get your blood pressure up!
Now *THAT* will get your blood pressure up!
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REGISTRATION IS EXPANDED TO 50!
Check out the announcement on a separate thread. If you've been wanting to come and didn't make the first limit, here is your chance!
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=24625
Tom Davis, if you think you will be coming, then register, you big goof!
Yippie! This is gonna be BIG!
Check out the announcement on a separate thread. If you've been wanting to come and didn't make the first limit, here is your chance!
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=24625
Tom Davis, if you think you will be coming, then register, you big goof!
Yippie! This is gonna be BIG!
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Well boys.....before Truckhaven I wasn't too sure if this was one I wanted to do....after....I'm in.
I'll see what I can do to get the time off work and off I go.
ps.....Rick and Matt, can you give me some general prices for the campgrounds you're staying at??
[Edited by leebo on 01-30-2001 at 09:09 AM]
I'll see what I can do to get the time off work and off I go.
ps.....Rick and Matt, can you give me some general prices for the campgrounds you're staying at??
[Edited by leebo on 01-30-2001 at 09:09 AM]
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Gerald - sorry, but I'm not going to Moab. I'll be using my vacation to go back to Omaha, NE, (family and friends) and then swing down to hike Chaco Canyon/4 Corners/Grand Canyon on the way back (ie, SF -> Nevada/Utah, Denver, Omaha, down to I-40 (diagonal across kansas), over to NM, visit Chaco Canyon, go up to the 4 Corners, head over to the Grand Canyon for hiking, then back to SF. It's a long trip, and I'll need my vacation days for it. I'm planning on doing it during the July 4th week..
So, I'll state it right here and now again:
I will *NOT* be at Moab for this Serious Explorations run. I may stop by in July; but that's a maybe.
So, I'll state it right here and now again:
I will *NOT* be at Moab for this Serious Explorations run. I may stop by in July; but that's a maybe.
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now that will be something! especially with those Isuzu guys there too. Opening a motel in Moab should be a good idea I would say. Where is everybody staying????
Glad more guys can make it.
[Edited by Andre Hryn on 01-30-2001 at 11:19 AM]
Glad more guys can make it.
[Edited by Andre Hryn on 01-30-2001 at 11:19 AM]
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Check this out!
I don't know if this has been found before but I just found this tonight:
Lists of trails with pictures and sometimes maps
http://www.4x4now.com/mu4wd.htm
Trail ratings (not as cool-we already know)
http://www.4x4now.com/tr.htm
It answered my question about Kane Creek, I don't think I will try it even though I have raised breathers.
What about a night run on this trail? If someone pre-runs it early.
http://www.4x4now.com/mtss.htm
[Edited by Brian1 on 01-30-2001 at 08:42 PM]
I don't know if this has been found before but I just found this tonight:
Lists of trails with pictures and sometimes maps
http://www.4x4now.com/mu4wd.htm
Trail ratings (not as cool-we already know)
http://www.4x4now.com/tr.htm
It answered my question about Kane Creek, I don't think I will try it even though I have raised breathers.
What about a night run on this trail? If someone pre-runs it early.
http://www.4x4now.com/mtss.htm
[Edited by Brian1 on 01-30-2001 at 08:42 PM]
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It looks like we took care of all the issues associated with Moab already. Did we???
anybody else going? I mean we expanded to 50 trucks..... are there 50 rigs on the list?
c'mon guys!
anybody else going? I mean we expanded to 50 trucks..... are there 50 rigs on the list?
c'mon guys!
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OK, I just signed up. What are the cheapest places to stay out there? I am bringing my girlfriend, and roughing it for her is a holiday inn. I like the cabin idea, especially if it around 40 bones. IF there is nothing around that price I guess I'll be trying to talk her inot camping out.
Also, who is coming from the Houston area? I know Kris Guilbeaux is coming out of Victoria, which is pretty close. Anyone else want to make a convoy from the Houston area?
Hey GJarrett, you should put what city state each truck is coming from on the list of confirmed trucks in the Itinerary thread, so we can link up easily.
Also, who is coming from the Houston area? I know Kris Guilbeaux is coming out of Victoria, which is pretty close. Anyone else want to make a convoy from the Houston area?
Hey GJarrett, you should put what city state each truck is coming from on the list of confirmed trucks in the Itinerary thread, so we can link up easily.
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Randoll, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you have waited this long you will probably be camping out, since motel rooms were filling up back in December. Check out the KOA since they always have shower facilities/etc. Go ahead and check the chamber of commerce link on this thread and hunt for motel rooms right now and let us know if you find some since I am sure others will also be interested in getting them.
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Well, I checked each of the messages and even did a search on Chamber of Commerce, but did not find a link to anything. I saw the link to silver sage, if that is what you mean, but that was about it.
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I think this is what Gerald was trying to tell you to check out.
http://www.moab-utah.com/
http://www.4x4now.com/mu4wd.htm
You should be able to find something here. We did the cabins at CCR2000 and they were pretty nice, but you don't have showers. They are in the restrooms, but they were clean.
There is also other places with cabins I was checking into, but did the motel instead.
I think this is what Gerald was trying to tell you to check out.
http://www.moab-utah.com/
http://www.4x4now.com/mu4wd.htm
You should be able to find something here. We did the cabins at CCR2000 and they were pretty nice, but you don't have showers. They are in the restrooms, but they were clean.
There is also other places with cabins I was checking into, but did the motel instead.
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