Ocean Pacific's 4x4

[Limited02]

No.

Think about it. If you have a peg and a hole that are exactly the same size, you cannot fit them together without a press- and even then you'll probably get some galling. You need a slight oversize on the hole to fit the peg in.

Now because there is a slight oversize, there is a possibility to not get centered when it bolts down tight- if the hub flange was tapered, then you might be able to, but it's not.

Have you ever looked at the shape of the lug nuts? They are tapered. When you evenly tighten down the lug nuts, they will center the wheel. Once you torque them to spec, they generate a massive clamping force between the back of the wheel and the hub flange. This clamping force is actually what holds the wheel in place and transfers the load from the wheel into the suspension. I know it seems counter-intuitive, but it's true.

I am going to disagree with you. He will more likely have issues with vibration on the front because of the larger size hub size. Even though the lug nuts are tapered, that doesn't been they'll be perfectly centered after he tightens everything down.

I know this for a fact because I had the same issue. I bought 20" wheels/tires and had them balanced three times because they were shaking so much. Decided it would be best to go a shop that specializes in larger rims and have them try to balance them. As soon as they pulled off the front tires, they came in and said the issue was I needed hub centric spacers to help center the wheel before tightening it down. They checked the tires balance and said they were fine, put the hub spacers on the front and off I went with a smile on my face

OP-I would recommend front hub-centric spacers because they are very cheap($20 or so if I remember). Think of it like this: The more centered you can put a wheel on to start with, the more centered it will be when you tighten it down

 

[2TimingTom]

How did you tighten the wheels down?

I've been running larger hub bores on my winter wheels without rings for 6 winters now. Never had any issues with vibrations. Plus I've crewed for some amateur race teams using larger hub bores and no rings and they see speeds of nearly 120 while hitting the curbs around the track.

When I tighten my lug nuts, I tighten them in a star pattern while in the air, taking 2 passes to get very near the final torque. Then, set it on the ground and torque to final spec- which is usually 1/8 to 1/4 turn with the torque wrench. If you tighten one lug nut down too much, it won't allow another one on the opposite side to pull it over into position (which also puts that lug stud in bending- not good).

Plus I've had this conversation with my stress engineer and a suspension engineer at JG Racing (the big NASCAR team) as well as tons of other engineers.

 

[The Electrician]

From where can I buy these hub-centric spacers online? And thank you for your help.

 

[Limited02]

How did you tighten the wheels down?

I've been running larger hub bores on my winter wheels without rings for 6 winters now. Never had any issues with vibrations. Plus I've crewed for some amateur race teams using larger hub bores and no rings and they see speeds of nearly 120 while hitting the curbs around the track.

When I tighten my lug nuts, I tighten them in a star pattern while in the air, taking 2 passes to get very near the final torque. Then, set it on the ground and torque to final spec- which is usually 1/8 to 1/4 turn with the torque wrench. If you tighten one lug nut down too much, it won't allow another one on the opposite side to pull it over into position (which also puts that lug stud in bending- not good).

Plus I've had this conversation with my stress engineer and a suspension engineer at JG Racing (the big NASCAR team) as well as tons of other engineers.

I tighten them in the star pattern just as you decribed. My dad owned an automotive shop for 15 years and did professional racing most of his life(mudracing, stock car and monstertrucks), so he taught me a lot of what I know.

I am not calling you out and saying you are wrong, I am saying from my personal experiece that hub-centric spacers is what fixed my issue and I want to provide the OP with a second option in case he has vibration issues. I suggest the OP give it a shot without the spacers and if everything works smoothly, then he saved a few dollars. If the tires are balanced to perfection and there's shake, try the spacers.

OP- If you decide to go with the rings, find a shop around that specializes in larger rims.

 

[Ocean Pacific]

Sorry I'm a little late to this conversation but you should be fine with those rims. Our lug nuts are tapered so they center it nicely.

In other news, I plan on replacing my trans myself very soon. Will keep you posted on that and will most likely have tons of questions once started. As if that wasn't enough of a challenge, I picked up a new toy...don't hate haha

 

[Triton8273]

There's no reason to hate...that was built before they ruined the company lol.

I'm sure that thing has never been back to a mechanic since it was built...unlike the new ones

 

[HiImBrian]

Sorry I'm a little late to this conversation but you should be fine with those rims. Our lug nuts are tapered so they center it nicely.

In other news, I plan on replacing my trans myself very soon. Will keep you posted on that and will most likely have tons of questions once started. As if that wasn't enough of a challenge, I picked up a new toy...don't hate haha

No hate from me. I almost bought the same thing about a year ago.

 

[Triton8273]

No hate from me. I almost bought the same thing about a year ago.

 

[Ocean Pacific]

Wow, its been forever since I've been on! I really miss this site! I'll post some updates asap with pics of course. In the meantime, here is some hooning for you. Shows the fun My friends and I have!

 

[Ocean Pacific]

Spacers For Sale!

Hey guys,

Selling my 3rd gen spacers. 2.25" front and 1.75" rear. Running a different setup now. Painted, no cracks or chips. PM me or shoot me a call 9092739638

Thanks!

 

[Racko]

Just read your thread and it's good to see you back! Whats the new setup? What happen to the land rover?

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Whats the new setup?

I second this! There doesn't seem to be too many avenues with which we can lift the suspension so new stuff is always cool. I need to find an affordable way to get a little more ground clearance as well so I'm sending a PM about the spacers too.

 

[King of So Cal]

Just read your thread and it's good to see you back! Whats the new setup? What happen to the land rover?

I second this! There doesn't seem to be too many avenues with which we can lift the suspension so new stuff is always cool. I need to find an affordable way to get a little more ground clearance as well so I'm sending a PM about the spacers too.

He's running Ranchos now.

 

[King of So Cal]

As for the Rover, its gone, as many others have come and gone.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

He's running Ranchos now.

I have read on here in some places that they are a great upgrade but also that you don't get much lift out them. It would be great to get an indepth review from someone who regularly offroads and from his pics it looks like he could give them a good workout!

Is the travel of the strut increased with the Ranchos?

 

[King of So Cal]

I have read on here in some places that they are a great upgrade but also that you don't get much lift out them. It would be great to get an indepth review from someone who regularly offroads and from his pics it looks like he could give them a good workout!

Is the travel of the strut increased with the Ranchos?

That review would be from either me or him. Ive had my Ranchos for a couple years now and kept the Truxxx spacers. We also both run the BTF upper control arms (which I highly recommend). We off road together all the time, (off road extremely hard too, we beat the crap out of these things), these trucks are fantastic. Ive never busted a single part on mine. The travel of the shocks is only slightly more then stock. However they make the truck feel stronger and more solid. They're great for the street too, eliminates most of the body roll. If you offroad your truck AND DD it, the Ranchos are great. However if your truck is only a weekend toy, I recommend Kings, Fox, Icon, etc. My truck is now retired from DD duties and I now am craving for some Icons.

 

[King of So Cal]

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