Questions on Remote Turbo 5.0L in a Ranger....

[justin146]

At 8psi, you are going to be moving more than 30lbs a minute- more like 40lbs a minute. A typical GT40p longblock will make about 380wheel horsepower at 9psi; and if you count 15% driveline loss, that is about 430 flywheel horsepower. 1lb of air/minute is about 1 horsepower, so you are looking at about 43lbs/min at 9psi. It will be slightly less at 8psi.

And about the guy running a T04e on a Mustang, what turbo was he running? TO4e is a pretty generic term. A 60-1 is still a TO4e, but it can support about 500whp on a 5.0.

 

[rocket 5979]

In this case, the stock Explorer injectors would be the EV6 body and EV1 connector. Right?

Edit: Google'd and found your injectors. Seems my hypothesis is right.

It all depends on which year Explorer you are talking about. Some used the EV1 connectors while others used the EV6 connectors. Don't worry about the body, just worry about the connector. I do not have a clear idea of what year harness you are using so that it why I am not stating exactly which injector you should use because I need to know more information first. I am sure that once you take a look, like you probably already have, then you will know for sure.

I have posted detailed pictures and explanations of the EV1 and EV6 connectors in this forum. Search around and you will have your 100% answer once you match my pictures and explanations to your harness itself.

 

[rocket 5979]

At 8psi, you are going to be moving more than 30lbs a minute- more like 40lbs a minute. A typical GT40p longblock will make about 380wheel horsepower at 9psi; and if you count 15% driveline loss, that is about 430 flywheel horsepower. 1lb of air/minute is about 1 horsepower, so you are looking at about 43lbs/min at 9psi. It will be slightly less at 8psi.

And about the guy running a T04e on a Mustang, what turbo was he running? TO4e is a pretty generic term. A 60-1 is still a TO4e, but it can support about 500whp on a 5.0.

Pay attention to Justin here he has walked in your exact shoes and has firsthand experience here. Your 5.0 Explorer running 9 psi of boost up to a 5500 rpm limit while intercooled will yield around 45.46 #/min airflow in average conditions. That little 57 trim turbo with its T3 flange and smaller turbine housing will be more than maxxed out. Just to give you an idea, I will be using a turbo of similar spec to build a system on my brother's 2.8 liter I6 engine in his VW. I am using a Garrett T04E 60 trim on my 3.9 V8 Lincoln LS and it spools VERY quickly. Others on here are using T04E 60-1's on their 4.0 V6 Explorer's and getting great spool times on engines 1 liter smaller than yours mind you. That 57 trim will max out way too early for that pressure ratio to flow amount and I fear that you will be disappointed. I understand trying to save a buck, but you are taking the wrong step to ensure you retain good spool after shifting that manual tranny. My suggestion is to run a T04E 60-1 or even 62-1 turbo with a TIAL BOV. That BOV will allow you to recoop boost much faster after a shift due to it allowing the turbo to remain spooled.

It is your decision but you may want to take the advice of Justin (person who has walked your path before) and me (Custom turbo dealer and fabricator). Our recommendations will save you money and lots of heartache here.

 

[V8RangerBoy]

We'll see. I know it is small, but at the same time, I know it isn't TERRIBLY small. If it fails miserably, I'll track down a 60-1 and change it out. The flanges are very similar, if not identical, so it wouldn't take me long to change.

I think you should just be proud I left the FMU sitting on my shelf haha!

 

[rocket 5979]

We'll see. I know it is small, but at the same time, I know it isn't TERRIBLY small. If it fails miserably, I'll track down a 60-1 and change it out. The flanges are very similar, if not identical, so it wouldn't take me long to change.

I think you should just be proud I left the FMU sitting on my shelf haha!

Do you have that 57 trim in hand? It may be a T4 flange but most I have seen have a T3 flange. Most 60-1 T04E's I have seen have a T4 flange. I have not seen the turbo that you have your mind set on so I assume you already verified this due to what you mentioned in your previous post. Just one thing to make sure you confirm is the same.

Whenever you can, I would like to see the full specs on that turbo you plan to pick up. I especially want to see what A/R the turbine housing is as well as what A/R your compressor housing is.

SIR, PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE FMU!!! : Good to hear that you left that thing to be used as a paper weight. That is their best use.

 

[rocket 5979]

That is a pretty nice Ranger you have there. Not your grandma's 3.0 V6... I will likely be doing a similar 5.0 swap into the 93 Ranger I have then throwing some Dana 44's under it with a custom lift.

What is your planned use for the truck? Mud, crawling, beach running, sand dunes?

 

[V8RangerBoy]

Do you have that 57 trim in hand? It may be a T4 flange but most I have seen have a T3 flange. Most 60-1 T04E's I have seen have a T4 flange. I have not seen the turbo that you have your mind set on so I assume you already verified this due to what you mentioned in your previous post. Just one thing to make sure you confirm is the same.

Whenever you can, I would like to see the full specs on that turbo you plan to pick up. I especially want to see what A/R the turbine housing is as well as what A/R your compressor housing is.

It's ok if the flanges aren't the same. Probably took me all of about 10-15 minutes to cut the flange out on the mill.

As for the turbo, it's sitting at the shop ready to go - I'll track down some spec's and edit them in real quick.

It's listed as a "T3/T4 flange"
.50 a/r compressor, .63 turbine
3" inlet, 2 out
Compressor: 3" exducer, 2" inducer
Turbine: 2.2" exducer, 2,58" inducer
Normal 5-bolt hot side.

 

[V8RangerBoy]

That is a pretty nice Ranger you have there. Not your grandma's 3.0 V6... I will likely be doing a similar 5.0 swap into the 93 Ranger I have then throwing some Dana 44's under it with a custom lift.

What is your planned use for the truck? Mud, crawling, beach running, sand dunes?

Thanks - has alot of time into it and I love it to death. It's been like it is on CarDomain for almost 2 years now - it's seen a little bit of crawling, nothing major, a fair amount of mud during senior year, but it's mainly just my daily driver and smoke-the-weekend-stoplight-ricers truck. We go camping alot and whatnot also, so it's nice to be able to go pretty much wherever I want.

But as for that FMU... I knew a guy with one that would just give it to me, so, like all things free, it was tempting to take. But after digging around on forums (all kinds of different cars) I would probably give one away too. Sounds like a fantastic way to smoke a motor.

I'll probably be swapping axles soon also (should've taken the one from the donating Explorer at the time but oh well) - apparently the 8.8 from a newer Ranger is a swap-and-go setup so that's probably what I'll end up with. The 7.5's held up great to the V8 but the extra torque from the turbo will probably end it. Might put one of the selectable ECTED lockers in it while I'm at it.

Here's what it looked like when I first bought it in '04 (pretty sure I was barely 15 in the picture) - second pic was taken when I left for college in August.