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Premier said:
Looks good.. I was just concerned with such a large amount of weight loss... I know all about boosting metabolism, and it looks like your on a decent meal plan ;) BUT, I would ditch the soy. Two words: estrogenic properties read me.


Also, that Labrada MRP looks pricey. You could make your own, out of whey, peanut butter(fat), and a small amount of rolled oats for carbs.

Its good he has you on EFA's. You should be on fish oil though.. also why does he have you on BCAA's(amino acids)? They are a waste of money. I can post references if you would like :)


Its not too bad, I am getting the big case for 60. Those last me for a good while, it actually comes out pretty cheap when you divide the price by the number of meals if gives me. Also, I already bought 4 big cases of it since the GNC down here at school does not have them.

I dont know why he has me on the AA, he gave me the bottle so if I dont thikn they are helping when I run out then I just wont buy another bottle. Here is where I worked out over the break and my trainer/nutritionist was contracted out of there. His brother competed in Mr. Olympia a few years ago and placed pretty well and he was trainer by Basil, his brother, my trainer. I am gonna go ahead and stick with what he wants me to use, because I know in the grand scheme of things he is working torwards an ideal end. So far I a hooked, I cant stand sunday because I feel as if I am not doign anything, I do no cardio on leg days and instead do my 5th day of cardio on Saturday. Sunday is my day to do nothing and I am getting restless...may have to start using sunday as a light day of cardio.
 



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Since this thread was bumped up from the dead, i figured id update---


I failed, and i failed miserably. My "back in the gym" lasted all of 2-3 months. I got bumped back to graveyard, and i just couldnt do it working 12 hour graveyard shift. However, within the next 2-3 weeks it looks like i'll have the opportunity to go back to day shift. Wish me luck. :p
 






I've been quiet, but I have been following this thread and started in the gym May 2004. When I started I was 5' 11" 205 (all fat). I am now 160 again like I was in the middle of high school. I have been starting to work out more intense than I was and am starting to put on the muscle. I can post a before and after pic if I ca nfind a good before. I am very happy with where I am at. I am in great shape and eat very healthy. If I can find a good before pic, I'll show you guys the results.
 






Wow, this is an old thread. Well I have kept in the gym for most of the time since I posted here last. I have gotten stronger and a little bigger but I think I have plataued(sp). Maybe Im gonna have to start taking protein shakes to help me move up to the next level. Here is a pic from about 2 weeks ago:
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:eek:

Looking damn good, Tex!



(and I say this in the most manly way! :D)
 






Premier said:
Its good he has you on EFA's.

EFA's are? I've always been extremely thin, it runs in the family. My dad is, my older bro, me and my younger sister. However, I've always had to maintain the ability to pass the POWER test in IL for police testing. For me this is:
Bench 99% of my body weight
16.5in on sit and reach
37 situps in a minute
13:46 in the mile and a half.

Now, I can do this all easily, but since leaving college, my weight equipment isn't nearly what I had, and running outside is cold. I've dropped about 3 minutes on my best run time of 9:40 but my lifting is getting better. For me it's just a matter of eating well, and often with smaller portions. I like staying filled up, not full. If I could follow my lifting, it'd be 3 days a week weights, 3 days running... For me, it's a matter of getting the sleep, to have the energy to exercise after work.
 






Hey, Premier, is this photo still floating around in IM? :p
 

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When I was 18, I had 16" arms. I'm going on 20 at 17 1/2" and trying to get 18s or higher before I turn 21.
 






18in? That's it? HA!








































BROTHER! What are you going to when these 26in pythons come running wild over you!
 

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RFR2212 said:
EFA's are? I've always been extremely thin, it runs in the family. My dad is, my older bro, me and my younger sister. However, I've always had to maintain the ability to pass the POWER test in IL for police testing. For me this is:
Bench 99% of my body weight
16.5in on sit and reach
37 situps in a minute
13:46 in the mile and a half.

Now, I can do this all easily, but since leaving college, my weight equipment isn't nearly what I had, and running outside is cold. I've dropped about 3 minutes on my best run time of 9:40 but my lifting is getting better. For me it's just a matter of eating well, and often with smaller portions. I like staying filled up, not full. If I could follow my lifting, it'd be 3 days a week weights, 3 days running... For me, it's a matter of getting the sleep, to have the energy to exercise after work.

EFA's

Essential fatty acids (EFAs): are fats that are essential to the diet because the body cannot produce them. Essential fatty acids are extremely important nutrients for health. They are present in every healthy cell in the body, and are critical for the normal growth and functioning of the cells, muscles, nerves, and organs. EFAs are also used by the body to produce a class of hormone-like substances called prostaglandins, which are key to many important processes. Deficiencies of EFAs are linked to a variety of health problems, including major ones such as heart disease, cancer, and diabetes. It has been estimated that as high as 80% of the American population may consume insufficient quantities of EFAs.

Very few health issues have received as much attention during the past several decades as the question of fat in the diet. Sixty-eight percent of mortalities in America are related to fat consumption and diet, including heart disease (44% of deaths), cancer (22%) and diabetes (2%). There are several types of dietary fats. Saturated fat is found mainly in animal products, including meat and dairy products, and avocados, and nuts. Cholesterol is a dietary fat that is only found in animal products. Cholesterol is also made by the body in small amounts from saturated fats. Heavy consumption of saturated fat and cholesterol has been linked to heart disease and cancer. Unsaturated fats are typically oils from vegetables, nuts, and are present in some fish. These are considered the healthiest dietary fats. Essential fatty acids are unsaturated fats. EFAs are the only fats that may need to be increased in the American diet.

Scientists classify essential fatty acids into two types, omega 3 fatty acids and omega-6 fatty acids, depending on their chemical composition. Technically, the omega-3 fatty acids are alpha-linolenic acid, stearidonic acid, and two others called EPA and DHA. Alpha-linolenic acid is found mainly in flaxseed oil, canola oil, soybeans, walnuts, hemp seeds, and dark green leafy vegetables. Stearidonic acid is found in rarer types of seeds and nuts, including black currant seeds. EPA and DHA are present in cold-water fish, including salmon, trout, sardines, mackerel and cod. Cod liver oil is a popular nutritional supplement for omega-3 EFAs.

Omega-6 fatty acids are more common in the American diet than the omega-3 EFAs. These include linoleic acid, which is found in safflower, olive, almond, sunflower, hemp, soybean, walnut, pumpkin, sesame, and flaxseed oils. Gamma-linolenic acid (GLA) is found in some seeds and evening primrose oil. Arachidonic acid (AA) is present in meat and animal products.

Both types of EFAs, omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, are necessary in a healthy diet. Deficiencies of EFAs have been brought about by changes in diet and the modern processing of foods and oils. Many nutritionists believe that a major dietary problem is the use of hydrogenated oils, which are present in margarine and many processed foods. Hydrogenated oils are highly refined by industrial processes, and contain toxic by-products and trans-fatty acids. Trans-fatty acids are fat molecules with chemically altered structures, and are believed to have several detrimental effects on the body. Trans-fatty acids interfere with the absorption of healthy EFAs, and may contribute to atherosclerosis, or damage to the arteries. Deep-fried foods, which are cooked in oil that is altered by very high temperatures, also contain trans-fatty acids. Many health professionals, including those at the World Heath Organization, have protested against the use of hydrogenated oils in food and the consumption of trans-fatty acids. Health conditions linked to the consumption of trans-fatty acids and hydrogenated oils include cancer, heart disease, high cholesterol, diabetes, obesity, immune system disorders, decreased sperm counts, and infant development problems.

Dietary changes that have contributed to EFA deficiency or imbalances include the increased use of oils that contain few or no omega-3 EFAs; the industrial milling of flour that removes the EFA-containing germ; the increase of sugar and fried foods in the diet that may interfere with the body's absorption of EFAs; and the decreased consumption of fish.

A balance of omega-3 and omega-6 EFAs in the diet is recommended by experts. Americans typically consume higher quantities of omega-6 EFAs, because these are found in meat, animal products, and common cooking oils. Research has shown that too many omega-6 EFAs in the diet can lead to the imbalanced production of prostaglandins, which may contribute to health problems. Experts recommend that omega-3 and omega-6 EFAs be present in the diet in a ratio of around one to three. Americans consume a ratio as high as one to 40. Thus, the need for greater amounts of omega-3 EFAs in the diet has increased.

Symptoms of EFA deficiency or imbalance include dry or scaly skin, excessively dry hair, cracked fingernails, fatigue, weakness, frequent infections, allergies, mood disorders, hyperactivity, depression, memory and learning problems, slow wound healing, aching joints, poor digestion, high blood pressure, obesity, and high cholesterol.

General use
EFA supplementation is recommended for over 60 health conditions. EFAs are used therapeutically to treat and to prevent cardiovascular problems, including heart disease, high cholesterol, strokes, and high blood pressure. EFAs also have anti-inflammatory effects in the body, and are used in the nutritional treatment of arthritis, asthma, allergies, and skin conditions (e.g., eczema). EFAs are used as support for immune system disorders including AIDS, multiple sclerosis, lupus, and cancer.

Other conditions that may improve with EFA supplementation include acne and other skin problems, diabetes, depression, menopausal problems, nervous conditions, obesity, memory and learning disabilities, eye problems, and digestive disorders. EFAs are recommended for weight loss programs, as they may assist fat metabolism in the body. EFA supplementation is a recommended preventative practice, as well.

Preparations
Common EFA supplements are flaxseed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil, black currant seed oil, hemp seed oil, and cod liver oil. Consumers should search for supplements that contain both omega-3 and omega-6 EFAs, because imbalances of EFAs may occur if either is taken in excess over long periods of time. Flaxseed oil is a recommended supplement, because it contains the highest percentage of omega-3 fatty acids with some omega-6 EFAs, as well. Flaxseed oil is generally the least expensive source of omega-3 EFAs as well, generally much cheaper than fish oil supplements. Evening primrose oil is a popular supplement as well, because the GLA it contains has shown benefits in treating premenstrual syndrome and other conditions. However, evening primrose oil contains no omega-3 EFAs. Hemp seed oil is a well-balanced source of both EFAs.

Supplements are available from health food stores in liquid and capsule form. The recommended daily dosage is one to two tablespoons (13-26 capsules), taken with meals. EFAs can also be obtained from a diet that includes cold-water fish consumed twice per week, whole grains, dark green leafy vegetables, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, wheat germ, soy products, canola oil, and other foods mentioned above. Whole flaxseeds are a wholesome source of EFAs as well, and can be freshly ground and added to salads and other dishes.

Precautions
EFA supplements are generally fragile products, and must be produced, packaged and handled properly. Consumers should search for quality EFA supplements produced by reputable manufacturers. Products that are organically grown and certified by a third party are recommended. EFA products should be produced by "cold or modified expeller pressing," which means that they were produced without damaging temperatures or pressure. Products should be packaged in light-resistant containers, because sunlight damages EFAs. Packages should include manufacturing and use-by dates on them, in order to assure freshness. Stores and consumers should keep EFA products under refrigeration, because heat damages them, as well. Taste can indicate the quality of EFA oils: those that have no flavor usually are overly refined, and those that taste bitter are old or spoiled. Because of their low temperature threshold, nearly all the oils that are used as EFA supplements are not suitable for use as cooking oils.

Side effects
Side effects with most EFA supplements are rare, because EFAs are nontoxic and are used by the body as energy when taken in excess. The exception is cod liver and fish oil supplements, which can cause vitamin A and D toxicity when taken in excess. Side effects of vitamin A and D toxicity include headaches, skin discoloration, fatigue, nausea, and gastrointestinal problems. Fish oil supplements that have vitamins A and D removed are available.

Interactions
To maximize the benefits of EFA supplements, several recommendations can be followed. EFA users should reduce the amount of fat, particularly saturated fat from animal products, in their diet. The American Heart Association recommends that a healthy diet contains 30% or less of its total calories from fat. For 2000 total calories per day, 600 calories or less should be from fat, including EFA supplements. Consumers should also completely eliminate hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils from their diets. This includes eliminating all processed foods that contain them, such as margarine and many packaged foods. Other foods that contain trans-fatty acids, such as deep fried foods, should also be eliminated. Recommended cooking oils are olive, safflower, canola, and sesame oils. EFA effectiveness may be increased by lowering the intake of sugar and alcohol in the diet. Nutrients that assist EFA uptake are the B-complex vitamins, vitamin C, zinc, and magnesium. As with any supplement, EFA effectiveness can be augmented with a nutritious, high fiber diet that emphasizes fresh and natural foods, and the intake of fish two times a week.

Key Terms
Atherosclerosis
Hardening of the arteries.
Cholesterol
A steroid fat found in animal foods that is also produced in the body for several important functions. Excess cholesterol intake is linked to many diseases.
Hydrogenated fat
An unsaturated fat, commonly vegetable oil, that is processed with high heat and hydrogen to make it solid at room temperature. Margarine is a common hydrogenated fat.
Trans-fatty acid
A toxic type of fat created by hydrogenating oils and by deep frying foods.
 












BTW.. RFR your an ectomorph. If you care :p


X~FACTOR said:
Hey, Premier, is this photo still floating around in IM? :p


I dont think so Ray lol You should see P, he is huge. I met him in Vegas at the Olympia. He's about 195 right now, go check out his pics.

I havent been to the gym in over a month.. but im still at around 200lbs(5'8") and 13-14% bf.
 






BTW this is me and Premier before we became vegetarians. :D
 

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Reinstating my membership today, damn I can wait to get back in the gym! :D
 












Im going to challenge Lee Priest next year. He isnt THAT far ahead :)

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Well thats about disgusting. Can I ask how many of you guys are actually doing this for your health and well being. Or is it mostly just a, want to look good for the girls thing. Heres an easy way to answer that question if your having trouble. Do you have a leg workout also? Cause if you dont, your just in the gym for looks. I see it all the time, people in there just doing upper body, hell just doing chest and arms.
 






IMO, I wouldn't wanna be that big. I know a guy at gold's gym around me that did a few cycles of steriods. He has 21" biceps and he has to get his GF to help him take his shirts on and off.

I'd like to be about Brian Urlocker's (Chicago Bears player) size.
 



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Tex, I do it for the females and my health, but the females mostly. I don't have that huge of a leg routine because I do alot of biking and running. I've got my arms and chest good, and starting to go big on the abs (for the ladies of course) and back. I naturally have stocky, strong legs, so that helps me too. It's funny looking when these guys in the gym have huge upper bodies and their legs and ankles are like pencils.
 






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