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I would love to buy a rebuild kit and do it myself.

Nightmare of a task or doable if one is careful? As you have seen I like to be hands on and have plenty of patience. Go for it, or am I just looking for trouble?
 



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I would love to buy a rebuild kit and do it myself.

Nightmare of a task or doable if one is careful? As you have seen I like to be hands on and have plenty of patience. Go for it, or am I just looking for trouble?

I would say it's doable if you took your time, look through some of the rebuild diaries in the transmission section (they're all stickies) and judge for yourself.
 






Ditto, I called 1-800-843-2600 just before these posts, to see what else they may have for my 4R70W.
 






I would say it's doable if you took your time, look through some of the rebuild diaries in the transmission section (they're all stickies) and judge for yourself.

I'll check them out. I need to figure out if its solenoids, pressure switch ect and go from there. Yeah if I can save myself 2k and spend a couple hundys ill take the dive.
 






You might do better if you can find someone who will build a trans reasonably. It takes some special tools, and the hard part(for a pro) is R&Ring the trans. If you could get it done(bench built) for something reasonable like $300-$400 for labor, that would be best. You may ask Chris(Glacier) if he still will do that, he had one or two available long ago. He knows what needs to be done also.

I have bought most parts new for mine, the total without the TC will be close to $1000 I think. I don't have the skills of trained trans techs, I try to only work with a known good trans to begin with. This I am building had supposedly 29k on it. If there is nothing really wrong with internal case bushings and the pump, no debris in passages, you can do well on your own. Research a lot first, go through some of the rebuild threads that you can find.
 












Yes, tall order. Most people who can do that don't because they do it at work, or do it on the side and get more money as part of the whole R&R job. So put that idea in the closet as unlikely, but do keep an eye out for such a person.
 






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Finally made it to the first goal. I guess depending on how one claims numbers this graph could be interpreted peak torque at 470, but better off claiming the solid linear torque number. So it made a solid 434/401. So happy to say its the first 2v / M90 to beak 400whp.

Meth position is working great but the last two runs the fittings by the nozzles started leaking quite a bit so ACT's started to suffer on the last two runs. You can see the leak on the pull on this vid. It's a little hard to tell on this video unless you make it bigger, but it leaves a puddle on the intake.

First runs finished WOT pulls at just over 130*. The last two power pulls ACT's went up to 169*170ish*, which is still good temps considering the speed of the blower. This meth/water position is definitely good for at least a 60* drop in ACT's. I used to see 195-220* at only 16,000 blower RPM's and its now spinning at almost 20k and its down to a solid 130's.

Snow makes new fittings that fix the leak issue.

Had no belt slip. On the above pull it made 9.0psi at the 470 torque mark, and boost kept rising and peaked at 9.3psi at 427 torque. The 434 torque marked on the graph was making 9.2psi.

Made 401.4 rwhp at just over 5,600 rpm's @ only 9.0psi ! WOT was cut at 6,200 rpm's making 390rwhp and boost actually went up to 9.2psi.

So this pulley combo is definitely a success, as is the meth/water position.

These numbers are sound and solid as it accomplished the above pull with very heavy 20's that weigh 44lbs per side on 295/40/20's, about 30* hotter ACT's then the previous about 5 pretty much back to back pulls. Great part about all this is that it was accomplished at just 9psi. This Magnum Powers case and port matched intake is flowing nice as I used to see 9psi with my old setup and spinning the blower at just 16,000 rpm's.

Next pulls will be with light wheels and tires I will use for the track, and about 30* cooler ACT's. I think the fittings progressively leaked more because at first they were solid 130 ACT's and got one as low as 115 on a 5,500 rpm pull, that one was good for about 125* at 6,100 rpm.

So as Charles from Magnum Powers said, if I can control the heat, this case will make power as fast as I can spin it, so far that's proving to be right.

Next goals are fixing meth fittings, wheels/tires, changing my rear chiller to a "real" ice box. Once all that is in line ill start raising the boost. Considering how well the motor is flowing I expect to now see about 12.5 psi going down to a 2.25 blower pulley at just under 24k blower RPM. Will it start to slip out of control? There's only one way to find out. If necessary I could go 10rib with little effort.

But for now glad to say the first goal was accomplished, and can now ease into what's next. But im predicting mid to high 400's in power and over 500 in torque next to come.

Thanks Charles for your support and help for making to these numbers. Scott great little AED kit you built for us. Bruce and Derek from JBA, awesome job with the tuning and making these numbers real. Lonnie for your countless hours in working out this unique tune from the very beginning. John @ MP can't say enough about the motor, and Snow for your great product and support. And can't forget Kearney Mesa Welding for the great job on the intake work. Also thanks for any helpful tips to the members.

This was done on 91 pump gas.

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thats sick man i'm happy you met your goals. i can't wait to see the runs with more boost. hows the tranny feel with that much HP/tq being pushed through it.

you're making me home sick honestly. i would love to be at home swapping in the 5.0 but dam haha. glad to hear everything went smooth. keep up the build
 






thats sick man i'm happy you met your goals. i can't wait to see the runs with more boost. hows the tranny feel with that much HP/tq being pushed through it.

you're making me home sick honestly. i would love to be at home swapping in the 5.0 but dam haha. glad to hear everything went smooth. keep up the build

Psst, I'm yanking the 5.0 to swap in a 5.7, though the intake plate will show 347.
 






Yeah man thanks. Two years of hard work finally paid off! Def still has more in it. I pick up the X tomorrow so I have not had the chance to drive it yet.

My tranny still seems to have an issue during shifting. There is a test I still need to try with a tune to determine if in fact my tranny is going or not.

It held up fine during the pulls. Can not really tell if the tranny was slightly slipping, but for the most part I don't think it did. It sounded solid.

Ive got 500 down my scopes now.

Robert what long tubes did you use?
 






I'm looking for a few final parts and tools to do my trans, the list was longer than I expected.
 






Psst CDW6212R, you meant 5.8 right;) And I hope you are taking it up to at least a 408 stroker, forged with some AFR 205's? :burnout:

Awdrocks, glad to hear you put down some very solid numbers. I am JEALOUS!!!! Looking forward to future progress and hope you get some runs in before you up the boost. That way you can see what the difference is and have a better chance of the drivetrain holding up before it lets go. Congrats once again!!!
 






Psst CDW6212R, you meant 5.8 right;) And I hope you are taking it up to at least a 408 stroker, forged with some AFR 205's? :burnout:

Awdrocks, glad to hear you put down some very solid numbers. I am JEALOUS!!!! Looking forward to future progress and hope you get some runs in before you up the boost. That way you can see what the difference is and have a better chance of the drivetrain holding up before it lets go. Congrats once again!!!

Umm... a 347 is 5.7 liters, not 5.8
 






Alex has a lot of seat time with his truck, I'm sure he is nearing his final plans. Take it easy to start with and get the programming right.

The 95-01's take a 302 based engine easily, the 351W is really too big. I think the 347 will be big enough for me for a while.
 






Umm... a 347 is 5.7 liters, not 5.8

I knew that he was doing a 347 stroker. Judging from his post I thought he changed his mind to using a 351W instead. Stroke it out to a 393 or 408 but put a 347 plate on top to be sneaky. So yes, his 5.0 stroked to a 347 would yeild a 5.7.
 






Thanks guys. Yeah I need to address my tranny issue before I make it out to the track it seems like. I should have it tomorrow and we have a few test with a different tune on the tranny, hopefully the slipping goes away, but I doubt it.

If it still has issues it might be smart to keep going on the motor since it does fine on the dyno in 4th. THEN get a fresh rebuild with the finished motor.
 






Can't wait to see you finished product Don. What numbers you looking for?
 






The trans alone will be near $1500 without the converter, but I was hoping to leave it alone for a long time. I'm combining parts etc. from various aftermarket companies, at least there are a bunch of sources to find.

Even though I haven't installed my engine, I trust from the many examples similar to it on the SBFtech, it will be 400HP capable. The stock intake is not the best for it beyond 5000rpm, but I didn't plan to run past 5500 to begin with. After the time spent planning it and reading about others, there are a couple of things that could be different. Since I'm hoping to add boost, this will work fine for me. For a NA engine only, a TFS "R" intake and a cam made just for that, that would easily be 400RWHP. Meaning I'll be down an unknown amount due to the small intake. The stock exhaust and 4WD will be sucking a good 50hp from it compared to a Mustang. I built it wishing for 350hp gross, so I think I'll be right there to begin with.
 



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I bet you will be very close to what you are hoping for and possibly a little more:) How long before you finish and install the motor?

TFS just released new heads that look very promising for the 4.6. Use those with their intake and some comp cams plus supporting mods, should be able to push the 4.6 to over 300hp NA.(350hp for the mustang) That's the route I plan to go someday. But unlike you fellas with some cash to burn, I don't have any:(
 






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