I think injecting the water closer to the blower intake would be better. The more the mist interacts with obstructions and surfaces the less effective it can be by the time it reaches the blower. I injected right at the blower discharge because the Kenne Bell outlet manifold made it easy to do.its not lean he fixed all that now its heat pulling timing im gonna move the iat to the top plenum and add a solenoid to the meth and just a little more water
move the nozzle to a port on the intake
ill post a pic
Are you suggesting a better place to put itI think injecting the water closer to the blower intake would be better. The more the mist interacts with obstructions and surfaces the less effective it can be by the time it reaches the blower. I injected right at the blower discharge because the Kenne Bell outlet manifold made it easy to do.
I think placing the nozzle anywhere in the intake that is attached directly to the blower is good. The more it sprays the mist directly into the blower intake the better. Placing the nozzle before the throttle body puts a lot of obstruction to the flow path of the mist. The more evenly distributed the mist is before going into the blower the better. When the mist hits a surface it can coagulate into bigger drops.Are you suggesting a better place to put it
The kit already has a 1/4 npt port where I marked in the pic
You can nearly see it
The iat sensor should be after the blower so it picks-up the heat of the compressed air.its not lean he fixed all that now its heat pulling timing im gonna move the iat to the top plenum and add a solenoid to the meth and just a little more water
move the nozzle to a port on the intake
ill post a pic
If physically possible it is better to inject downstream from the blower, turbos etc. This is the point where the mist is most effective if the outflow is centralized before going to the lower intake. It flashes to a vapor more effectively and the intake air has less time and opportunity to pick up engine heat. The goal is to cool the intake air as close to where it enters the cylinders as possible. Some of the cooling when injected before the blower goes to cooling the blower which isn't the goal as small amount of water/alcohol being sprayed doesn't do much to cool such a large mass. The typical psi post blower isn't a concern since these pumps can spray at very high pressures. Don's setup doesn't allow post blower injection so injecting before the blower is his only choice. The KB setup I had was ideal for injecting after the blower as was the case for guys running centrifugal superchargers. It also works good for guys running turbos without an intercooler.The iat sensor should be after the blower so it picks-up the heat of the compressed air.
The discharge side of the blower would not be good for meth. It would be fighting the boost pressure and more importantly, allowing more mist into the closest cylinders and some might not get much if any......................
Is that for 100% meth or just a better one?And this little guy came today summit ships fast 2days
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Sometimes the banter will be useful for people reading this thread years later. It gives them information they might want to incorporate into their build, if possible. The air before the blower can't be cooled much because it is probably close the ambient temperature already. To flash the mist to vapor and get the cooling effect from this requires the air to be at a higher temperature. If the goal is having the coolest IATs then injecting after the blower is ideal. Cooling the blower is a futile effort as it is too hot and has too much mass for the mist to have much of an effect on a mild, daily driver build. Whatever small amount it might cool the blower is inconsequential to the operation and/or longevity of the blower. Air temps can still be dropped a good amount spraying before the blower. My guess is Donald should see around 110 degree IATs coming out of the blower. As for mentioning Mustangs, all builds have crossover value to others. My Mustang buddies and I adopted the W/A systems used by the Buick GN guys and got pointers from them for tuning. While the vehicles might be different the physics is still the same.My post on where the meth is injected was specific to this build. I know this build having been there done that and having tuned it. I try to help by keeping my comments specific to the build at hand. That's me, others enjoy the off topic banter. I would prefer to cool the air as it enters the heater/supercharger so it cools the heater/supercharger as well in a daily driven Explorer or Ranger. It makes sense to me when it will go through multiple heat cycles, in and out of boost around town. I never mentioned a Mustang with different intake and racing.
It will work with 100% but I'm 50/50 now I may up the water if neededIs that for 100% meth or just a better one?
IMO, there is nothing like running a Roots/twin screw blower on a daily driver. All that torque available in a split second at any RPM makes it hard to not have a lead foot. I bet you have seen a severe MPG drop lately.Even with the pcm pulling timing it halls ass
Coming from y'all that's very nice to hearI like the heat wrap on the intake tube and your overall clean install. I got some motivation from you to get back to and clean-up a couple items on mine.
Maybe just a littleyou have seen a severe MPG drop lately.