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Spoke at length with Adem from True Travel
RCV is having Covid issues, axles have been back ordered since June!!

True Travel is aware of this issue and offered to send another axle BUT it might take MONTHS
So the other option is to clean up the splines ourselves to make it fit, which is what I will be doing (and others, we are not the only ones to experience this with RCV axles apparently)


This is a machining issue, the splines were cut deep enough but never "cleaned up" fully as far as I can tell.
If we look closely at the RCV vs the stock shaft you can see the machine marks on the RCV splines, look like a round bit cutting a square edge.

I used a file to clean up the leading edge so it is more "rounded" like the factory piece, and to remove some rough bits that were left on the edge (would catch my fingernail) and now I have the shaft very very close to sliding into the diff, but I am not going to force it.
Today I plan to clean up the valley of the splines very carefully with a Dremel until the shaft slides into place.
I will get some pictures of the process, I need to pick up some dremel bits in town this AM then it is on.

I assured Adem I could handle these mods no problem, I am used to this kind of thing doing custom fabrication.
I see this as a small hurdle and will overcome.
@JoleneTheExploder if you need you can send me your axle shaft and I can fix it up for you? Or follow along and get your dremel out! We can do this. I took EXTENSIVE measurements (like you) and found the CV shaft matches the factory part in every way, except the valley of the splines are just a tad too short (need deeper V)

COVID SUCKS
 












well its defective right from the factory so I would think so, and now this is all documented in public view
If I was RCV I would for sure honor the warranty on a defective part.
However the fix should make it perfect, I cannot imagine breaking one of these massive CV's
 






Maybe give RCV and/or True Travel another call to make sure they will still honor the warranty? Lots of travel on a relatively short axle shaft. I am looking into a set for my D44 front axle because they remove most of the breaking points. That and a set of Reid knuckles would make a super strong D44. One of the key selling points is RCV's warranty.
 






I was told TT will cover the axle if I cannot make it fit, even with me filing away on it
All they have to do is replace the outer hub, not the whole CV
That is why I did not take a file or a mallet to it BEFORE I contacted Adem!

Smart thinking
Hurdle after hurdle it is what we do in the shop.....covid has tossed a wrench into just about every aspect of our lives
 












@410Fortune I'm right there with you. Never heard back from TTD but I'm glad you did. When I talked to RCV yesterday they acted completely clueless to my issue and said that it had nothing to do with them and u should take it up with TTD. I'll put mine on the mill and take it down one spline at a time and see how it goes. I just don't want to remove too much and weaken the engagement. I'm going to keep pursuing the issue and see if I can gust get them to send me a new outer end to the CV.
 






@410Fortune also an update to my spring selection. Ended up switching out mine and going with a 650# 10" upper and 750# 12" lower spring. With my front bumper and 12k winch it was just too much weight for the springs I had on it. I'll be fabricating a new front bumper from aluminum and it should drop the bumper weight from 130# down to 55# and be stronger than the existing. So we'll see how that plays out.
 












I spent 4 hours with the spindle in the mill basically scrapping off mill dye on each pass and after 8 passes on each spline and measuring the unit out after each pass I finally have a shaft that fits the driver side @410Fortune i hope you have found similar good fortune. I'll post some pictures later.
 






I too have the TTD +2 kit for an 2004 sport trac. I was planning on installing soon but after reading your guys trouble with the drivers side CV axle I figured I’d better check mine as well. I pulled my drivers side axle and compared it to the RVC and had the same results the splines were not cut deep enough on the RCV axle. I also tried installing it with out the snap ring and it will not slide into the diff. Adem from TTD said he has been waiting on RCV for more axles since June and my best course of action would be to follow along with 410 and Dremel out the splines.
 












Following along. Would like to see more about the Holley Terminator install. If you have covered that in your thread forgive me. I think that I looked at every page. Looking good!
 






Funny you say that!! the holley install is coming very soon, I have started to put the engine back together
The King shocks for the front have been ordered

We (mostly Brett) spent MUCH TIME with a shock / spring tuner and specialist (one of the owners of King actually) deciding on just the right setup for this front end. Shocks, springs and bump stops were ordered on Feb 8th, we shall see how long it takes to get them. King is 18+ weeks behind, not due to Covid shortages but due to Covid they said everyone and their mother has been ordering shocks for their projects.
I learned ALOT about coilovers and running dual springs, how they work together
We settled on a 16" tall 750# coil with a 4" tall 500# tender coil on top...working together this will give us the exact spring rate and ride we are after. Using 20" of coil in a 27" tall shock will also allow easy spring changes without the need for a strut compressor. We are using a 10" stroke shock here when in reality only 7" of shock stroke is needed. These parts are not cheap, so it is best to make sure your designs are solid before you spend other peoples money!!

I have a machine shop in town I have been working with, hoping they can help finish cutting the splines on the CV axle so I do not have to attack it with a dremmel. Should know more about this next week........

Mock up of the rear suspension is also happening, the rear shocks are not as special and will be products King likely has on the shelf, so way less lead time on those.

I spent the last week spring cleaning the shop, re organizing and getting all ready for the upcoming season. The blue 07 is my focus and has my full attention, All other projects have been completed!! I started putting the engine together yesterday and wiring up the holley will happen pretty much next in line!!

Update coming, hang in there!! I know Eddie Money has been waiting very patiently during 2020, I am planning to make 2021 a year for him to remember! This truck should be dang near done and ready to go when the shocks finally get here.........
 






All good things come to those that wait
 






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All right was an interesting winter you could say, had some challenges. But I am not into excuses, I am into building trucks so
GUESS WHO'S BACK

The 2007 Ranger known around here as "the blue truck in the center of the shop" is the ONLY THING in the shop!!
What does this mean? It means I can finally focus all of my time and put this thing together, I plan to work on this sucker from now until it is completed, so log in, tune in and check out the semi daily updates on this beast....because HERE WE GO!


So getting right back into this, starting with the dang CV axle mix up
Custom RCV axle does not fit the spider gear inside the dana 35 carrier
I have a local machine shop that was going to try and help, I took a pair of axles down to them and the owner and I sat and talked about my options.
Turns out there is some super special tooling required to cut splines in axle shafts, they cut at like 5 different angles to get the splines in there. This shop is not setup for this, so they were un able to help (would require like tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars)

So I am going at this with a diamond tip grinder and a dremmel!
So far I am pleased with the results.... doing this by hand, very very carefully, only removing a little bit at a time

First up I needed a spider gear for proper fitment, so I took a IFS dana 35 diff apart to get one
remove cover
remove bearing main caps
remove carrier and bearings
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To get the spider gears out must remove the roll pin with a drift and then center cross pin will come out
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There we go, now I can use the spider gear to ensure the cv axle fits perfectly

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Prep the super expensive super "custom" (but not complete??) CV axles shaft
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new diamond cutting wheels
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So we can see the machine markings in the splines were left unfinished. There is a circular pattern cut in there, the final cuts were never completed by RCV.

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Here you can see I made several light passes with the dremmel to get the spline whipped into shape.
One down, 26 more to go, x 2 sides
I spent a "few" hours on this, until my eyes were tired
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After one pass:
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The goal here is to remove the high parts and get the splined down smooth
I did all the splines on both sides, now I am working to deepen the "valleys"
I fully expect the CV shaft to slide into the spider gear a little later this morning

Tedious is the word of the day

About half way around the first side
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Hang in there folks..... this is gonna be a good one!!
As soon as I finish sorting out the suspension debacle I will be wiring up our drivetrain and Holley drivetrain computer MUAHAHAHAHAHA

Happy Spring! COVID SUCKS and all that...........nothing will stop me now
 






All right was an interesting winter you could say, had some challenges. But I am not into excuses, I am into building trucks so
GUESS WHO'S BACK

The 2007 Ranger known around here as "the blue truck in the center of the shop" is the ONLY THING in the shop!!
What does this mean? It means I can finally focus all of my time and put this thing together, I plan to work on this sucker from now until it is completed, so log in, tune in and check out the semi daily updates on this beast....because HERE WE GO!


So getting right back into this, starting with the dang CV axle mix up
Custom RCV axle does not fit the spider gear inside the dana 35 carrier
I have a local machine shop that was going to try and help, I took a pair of axles down to them and the owner and I sat and talked about my options.
Turns out there is some super special tooling required to cut splines in axle shafts, they cut at like 5 different angles to get the splines in there. This shop is not setup for this, so they were un able to help (would require like tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars)

So I am going at this with a diamond tip grinder and a dremmel!
So far I am pleased with the results.... doing this by hand, very very carefully, only removing a little bit at a time

First up I needed a spider gear for proper fitment, so I took a IFS dana 35 diff apart to get one
remove cover
remove bearing main caps
remove carrier and bearings
View attachment 329438

View attachment 329439

View attachment 329440

To get the spider gears out must remove the roll pin with a drift and then center cross pin will come out
View attachment 329441

View attachment 329442

There we go, now I can use the spider gear to ensure the cv axle fits perfectly

View attachment 329443

Prep the super expensive super "custom" (but not complete??) CV axles shaft
View attachment 329444

new diamond cutting wheels
View attachment 329445

So we can see the machine markings in the splines were left unfinished. There is a circular pattern cut in there, the final cuts were never completed by RCV.

View attachment 329446

Here you can see I made several light passes with the dremmel to get the spline whipped into shape.
One down, 26 more to go, x 2 sides
I spent a "few" hours on this, until my eyes were tired
View attachment 329447

After one pass:
View attachment 329448

The goal here is to remove the high parts and get the splined down smooth
I did all the splines on both sides, now I am working to deepen the "valleys"
I fully expect the CV shaft to slide into the spider gear a little later this morning

Tedious is the word of the day

About half way around the first side
View attachment 329449

Hang in there folks..... this is gonna be a good one!!
As soon as I finish sorting out the suspension debacle I will be wiring up our drivetrain and Holley drivetrain computer MUAHAHAHAHAHA

Happy Spring! COVID SUCKS and all that...........nothing will stop me now
I did a similar to mine but on the mill. When I was done and had it installed I took it for a drive. Seemed fine for a few laps around the neighborhood so I took it down the get the emissions tested and new tags on my plates. Hadn't had the battery connected for a while and the whole computer was cleared of any codes so got denied at the first go around. So I left for a nice 100 miles drive around the mountains to get the rig going in various rpm so the computer could get a good long of data. About 20 miles away on my way back to get it tested I started noticing a whine coming from the front end. Got the emissions done and passed and went on my way home. On the last mile the whine turned into a grind. I got home to see that the inner side of the cv was never finished in machineing either and had heated up so much that it started spewing cv grease out of the boot. Took it apart and found machine marks that were never finished off.

So long story short I spoke to Adem and TTD about this and he set off on getting me a new assembly.

As of last week RCV is basically refusing to do anything about it so Adem is getting another shop out of California to build the new ones. Hopefully I see mine soon and can get done with this whole process.

This is how we're currently sitting and waiting....

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Good work buddy! I know there is a small machine shop in Moab that cuts splines. I stopped in for some welding or something a few years ago and he told me he could cut and respline my axles for me
 






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