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Apten Chip Install

brad4

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Sorry Im new here and i have a OHV will this chip work for me?

If so How do i go about getting it?
 


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Al,
Are you sure the chip didn;t turn your truck into a ford escort? I mean seriously...how did you figure these MPG ratings? There is no way someone will tell me any compact production 4X4 SUV will get that kind of gas milage. It just is not possable. I know that the SOHC gets a little bit better economy then the old pushrod 4.0, but i mean seriously. Do you expect me to believe anything over 24 MPG? Myabe 25 i would believe, but when my mom drives a 2002 Escape and doesn;t get much better then 26 MPG, there is no way I can believe an Explorer will get those high figures. I don;t care what kind of chip or what kind of gas or what kind of driving..it doesn;t happen.
Also the way you fill the truck matters on how far you can go on a tank. to get correct MPG reading you really have to fill it to the same level, with everything being the same.
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, but a simple chip will not yeild those kind of increases.....

If you do happen to be getting that kind of milage more power to ya....I guess I won;t be seeing you at any gas stations anytime soon
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travis, al has a bit more done to his engine than just the chip and i believe he is the one who talks nonstop about his "quest for 30" :) yea its a bit of a shock at first but look at his driving... its all highway miles and his average speed is 65. drive like a granny; save mucho bucks on gas.
 




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we cant expect to get milage like that in out v8 awd explroers
 




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just saw this thread, thought I would catch up :)

Believe it or not, performance and fuel economy are two seperate things to program for. Making a car more powerful doesn't even affect fuel economy in the cruising speeds.

When you go to WOT (also known as full throttle), fuel economy is not important or improvable in explorers. So if you step on the gas all the time, you will not get the best gas mileage.

On the other hand, you want the car to run at stoich at many part throttle values. The more you can get the car at Stoich for part throttle, the better economy the car will see.

I can't really explain our strategy for fuel economy without giving up trade secrets, but basically you want to teach the EEC how to better learn the real air/fuel ratio at part throttle so it can make more accurate corrections. That's the biggest fuel improvment. There are a bunch of other things done in the programming that can help economy, but that discussion can get pretty deep.

I'm glad you are happy with the chip!

Take care,
Brian
 




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There is no way that Aldive is enjoying firmer shifts at WOD or even noticing an acceleration improvement getting 30mpg. He must be coasting around all day. I do not see how anyone can beat on their truck to enjoy new shift points and acceleration at higher RPM's and get 30 MPG in a Explorer. IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!!!!!

I have said this in a previous post. I am willing to spend my week vacation with Aldive and ride around with him everywhere he goes and bring my own calculator which i know works correctly and then post my results after spending the week with him. Let me know if your interested. I need to get to the bottom of this.
 




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Originally posted by 99explorer5.0
There is no way that Aldive is enjoying firmer shifts at WOD or even noticing an acceleration improvement getting 30mpg.

Actually you are comparing two different things. I have played with the acceleration and shifting in "in town" driving, and yes they are firmer and the go is better. The 30 MPG is higgway ONLY driving, no acceleration playing.
 




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Originally posted by aldive
The 40 MPG is higgway ONLY driving, no acceleration playing.

Hold on now...40 MPG??? When did this come into the equation
LOL

Also I am curious to know what gears you run? I mean are they 3.27?

The othe rthing is someone said the V-8 can;t be expected to get as nice a MPG figure as the SOHC, while my V-8 already does better then some SOHC trucks. i get a better milage then my old 4.0L pushrod had and that truck has a lot more mods. Once i get an exhaust and an intake on my V-8 we'll see how high I can get the highway milage. It's been up to about 21 MPG highway (Keep in mind this is loaded with all our camping gear and enough luggage for 3 adults.) This is also running the cheapest regular grade i could find.
I have 3.73 gears, AWD, and it's bone stock when I did this trip. Once I pay off the truck and get some money I plan to see 23-24MPG before chipping it.....we'll see
 




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Here's another thing to consider in the quest for fuel economy. You will pick up a few MPG by switching to an electric fan. Ford has an electric fan available for some explorers, the part number is 1L2Z-8C607-AC. I am not sure if that is the 5.0L, 4.0L, or 4.6L fan, but it would be worth looking into. Ford retail on that fan is $312, but I have a source that can get the fan for just over $200. Generally speaking, the fans ford sells are more than adequate for cooling vehicles. If you were to electric, I would go that route.

As far as temperature control, most of the 98-newer explorer computers can be programmed to run an electric fan. They left the programming in there because some do have electric fans. So in Al's case, he could buy the ford fan, have me reflash the chip for fan controls, and wire it into the original harness. The most difficult part would be finding the correct pin-outs to wire in the fan. It doesn't get much better than actually having the computer control the fan based on engine coolant temperature, a/c, and other calculations.

Brian
 












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Wow!!! Al. Over 30 MPG. That's a world's record. Got any secrets I can use on an Expedition with a 5.4L V8?
 




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Originally posted by AgExplorer
Wow!!! Al. Over 30 MPG. That's a world's record. Got any secrets I can use on an Expedition with a 5.4L V8?

I have made many mods to help achieve this maileage. Some of them atre as follows:
KKM intake
custom cat back exhaust
synthetic fluids all around
X Sprc front air dam
Jacobs wires
TB spacer
Apten chip

More important is to keep spped at or below 70 MPH and do not drive aggresively for max mileage,

Good luck....
 




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Originally posted by bjherron
Ford has an electric fan available for some explorers, the part number is 1L2Z-8C607-AC. I am not sure if that is the 5.0L, 4.0L, or 4.6L fan, but it would be worth looking into. Ford retail on that fan is $312, but I have a source that can get the fan for just over $200

I checked with Torrie at Ford Parts Network and asked about the fan Brian mentioned, He said its for a 2002 SOHC Exzplorer and his price is #218 plus shipping.

Does anyone know what other Explorers this fan will "fit" w/o much modification?
 




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Originally posted by aldive
Road trip fuel use date:

Atlanta to Sarasota (519 miles ) 33.8 MPG avg speed 64.8

Fuel used was Amoco 93.

I am very happy.....

Al,
At 33.8MPG you are saying that you used around 14.6 gallons of gas for that whole trip of 519 miles. Is that correct? Also this would be traveling on basicly flat terran, correct, or are you going down hill?
 








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It's that flat road that gives you such wonderful gas mileage. If you were driving around Cali you wouldn't be getting that kind of gas mileage. Too many mountains. I would be interested in what you would get driving around here though.
 




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It appears there is confusion in determining fuel mileage.
The best way I have found to determine this is as follows;
(1) Fill up your truck until the pump cuts off,
(2) record your mileage and start driving around town
(drive normal and dont "dog it"),
(3)after 1/4 to 1/2 a tank (it doesn't matter how far you
drive, it will still be the same math), fill up at the
same station and pump as before,
(4) record the # of gallons it took to fill up,
(5) divide the miles driven by the gallons you pumped.

This will be your mileage. You can do this a few time and average them to get a good determination of your mpg. Repeat the process for highway mileage! I did this and got 16.1 mpg city on my X.
 




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hahahahaha I get over 25 MPG on the highway in my 88 BII. I have a 93 OHV engine, a custom built A4LD tranny, 4.10 gears with 31" tires, synthetics throughout, full intake and exhaust mods, and I am still running the engine driven fan.

I agree, the single best mod you can make to improve gas mileage is to run an electric fan.
Also the engine must be in perfect tune, and kept that way. plugs, filters, clean intake, TB, IAC, etc

Air pressure in the tires is VERY important, so is the proper adjustment of the E brake cable, the right gears for your tire size, and driving like there is an egg between your foot and the gas pedal is the way to go.

I drive my truck like I stole it and I get GREAT mileage.
I can usually get 550+ miles from a tank, BII's have 23 gallon tanks, and I have yet to run out of gas.........
 


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Good 4 U! I'm glad your truck does so well!

Since the new X's are rated at 16 City and mine with 130,00mi still gets that, I guess I'm doing well. Mine is a '93 you know! BTW this is my city mileage (A lot of start and stop, keep in mind 32x11.5/15 w/ 3.73 gears)
 




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