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That is about the best bet-
You should see a linkage which connects the egr valve to the sensor-
it senses actual movement of the valve-
If no movement is sensed, low flow code is displayed. If is doesn't sense the valve closing, a high flow code is displayed.
 



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So I bought a new Fuel Pressure regulator... looked in my Haynes manual it said "fuel pressure regulator is easily located..."

Didn't have much time (got last minute B.C. tickets for Saturday) popped the hood and figured I can do the regulator real quick and...

If thats "Easy" to get too then I want to know what they think is diffficult.


There is a wiring harness that goes over the top of it and there is not much room to work in between the block and the firewall.

How easy is the part itself to remove and replace? I thought it was a few quick hoses to be switched over but somethign tells me hooking the new sensor up to the bottom hoses will be very difficult!

Oh... and my truck had a 1/6 of gas in it... wasn't starting I added 6 gallons and it started up after that... any ideas on why that would be?



If im low on gas and facing down hill then it will barely start. so I have to roll to level ground to fire it up. bad tank design i guess.
 






Hmmm... nothing...

Looks like I am pulling stuff apart blindly this weekend!

Wish me luck guys!

This should help.

egr03.jpg

http://fordfuelinjection.com/index.php?p=35
I can't see it in the picture you posted, but I think I see the wire connection.

Also RockAuto.com shows it connected to the EGR.

getimage.php


That fordfuelinjection site had info on testing the position sensor.

Peace Out.....................
Bob:us:
 






Hey thanks for this!

Wish I had it BEFORE the weekend.

I grabbed the tool kit and propped up the hood (broken hood shock)

This is the most ridiculous set up ever!

Needing to take off the entire intake to get to the second bolt that holds the EVER on is ridiculous!

After fiddling around for a good hour and a half in 20 degree weather I finally realize how to actually TAKE the intake off.

I had thought/ hoped that I could just take off the intake ELBOW to get to the EVR but no such luck at least for me... I couldn't figure out how to get that off.

My 5.0 has a plate that says 5.0 on the engine block. there are 4 small screws that hold that plate on which hides two of the bolts to take the intake off.

All four are somehow stripped and or rusted. So I gave up for the day.

SO now... do you guys think I should try drilling these screws out?

Now attacking it knowing a little bit more.

I should AT LEAST be grabbing new gaskets for the evr (if I EVER get it off) and for the intake seeing as it is much more of a major job than I originally thought.

Had I known about all this work that needed to be down and the piss poor job the engineering is on this truck for actually working on it... I would NOT do it again.

I am really down on it right now and wishing I didn't drop $700 on an exhaust last week... I could have putz into a used car lot and taken that $700 and drove off in a running truck of some sort.
 






I still haven't checked the fuel pressure at the rail again.

Could low pressure cause the 401 code?
 






dude... first of all. workin outside in the cold sucks. I've done it.... sucks. so i feel your pain there. second. ya gotta try and not break the fasteners that go into aluminum. they're gonna be a pain. there are tricks that help not break stuff. impact tools are pretty key. Powered by air, electric or manual… all work well. just wrappin the socket with a mallot can be the answer. The shockwave running down the bolt can help free it up. when your socket is on, if you twist with short bursts of high torque rather than steady increasing pressure, you are less likely to break stuff.
if you have stripped bolts, helicoils are your best bet. buy a set and follow the instructions. if you broke the bolt off at the head, remove the manifold and try getting the rest out with vice-grips and or weld a nut on the stub. if you broke the bolt off flush i would try easy outs or maybe a left hand drill. usually when bolts break, they tend to loosen up quite a bit.

As for the problems you're having. I've delt with EGR's before. what you need to do is thoroughly clean it; as was said before. There is not likely anything else wrong with it and i'd bet money you DON'T need to replace any part of it. The hardest part of removal will be the large nut going to the exhaust. some anti-sieze on those threads is the way to go when you put it back. You'll need any combo of heat, penetrating oil, patience of a saint getting the thing off. In addition, I really think you're going to have to drop the tank to take care of your fuel problem. Changing the filter first makes sense as its easy. In all likelyhood, if you've picked up junk from the tank you'll need to replace it anyway. Dropping the tank should be a breeze if its been done in the near past. all the connections should be (mostly)free and easy to separate. They can be tricky so take your time and figure them out. There's usually a plastic lock on the fuel line connectors that needs to be removed. An ice pick or small screw driver will help if the rubber fill lines are rusted to the metal. Jab it in the end of the hose and work it all the way around. If you run the gas almost out of the truck you will be able to drop the tank easier. reusing stock hangers is pretty key so if they’re not rusted, keep em in good shape. Anti-seize is a must. Use plenty. Also, you may want to keep track of the total number of connections so when you reassemble, you don’t miss any.
The first thing to check is the pickup screen under the pump. I’m assuming you know how to remove the retaining ring that holds the pump in place and seals things up. Be carefull removing the pump. Ford is usually really tricky with these and it may seem impossible to remove. its not. if you take your time and snake it out, you'll be able to reuse it. The sender is usually part of the pump assembly so you’ll want to be carefull of that too. If the screen is plugged, I’d clean it and try to drain the tank to clean any sediment from it. Then put everything back to see if your fuel pressure increased at the rail. (by the way, this can and should be tested without even starting the vehicle. With “key on position” the pump will run for a couple seconds. You will need to cycle this a few times to “recharge” the lines and rail.) It also wouldn’t hurt to take a listen to the pump and have someone else turn the key. Before and after to hear improvement.
I always use a small amount of silicone grease on the hose connections when putting them back. Be aware tho, excess can damage fuel components if it gets in the system.
If you still have bogus pressure, I hate to say it, but its new fuel pump time. On the positive side, you’ll be well versed at tank removal.

Hope I helped. If not, let me know what the problem was and how you fixed it. Always eager to learn.
 






Thanks

dude... first of all. workin outside in the cold sucks. I've done it.... sucks. so i feel your pain there. second. ya gotta try and not break the fasteners that go into aluminum. they're gonna be a pain. there are tricks that help not break stuff. impact tools are pretty key. Powered by air, electric or manual… all work well. just wrappin the socket with a mallot can be the answer. The shockwave running down the bolt can help free it up. when your socket is on, if you twist with short bursts of high torque rather than steady increasing pressure, you are less likely to break stuff.
if you have stripped bolts, helicoils are your best bet. buy a set and follow the instructions. if you broke the bolt off at the head, remove the manifold and try getting the rest out with vice-grips and or weld a nut on the stub. if you broke the bolt off flush i would try easy outs or maybe a left hand drill. usually when bolts break, they tend to loosen up quite a bit.

As for the problems you're having. I've delt with EGR's before. what you need to do is thoroughly clean it; as was said before. There is not likely anything else wrong with it and i'd bet money you DON'T need to replace any part of it. The hardest part of removal will be the large nut going to the exhaust. some anti-sieze on those threads is the way to go when you put it back. You'll need any combo of heat, penetrating oil, patience of a saint getting the thing off. In addition, I really think you're going to have to drop the tank to take care of your fuel problem. Changing the filter first makes sense as its easy. In all likelyhood, if you've picked up junk from the tank you'll need to replace it anyway. Dropping the tank should be a breeze if its been done in the near past. all the connections should be (mostly)free and easy to separate. They can be tricky so take your time and figure them out. There's usually a plastic lock on the fuel line connectors that needs to be removed. An ice pick or small screw driver will help if the rubber fill lines are rusted to the metal. Jab it in the end of the hose and work it all the way around. If you run the gas almost out of the truck you will be able to drop the tank easier. reusing stock hangers is pretty key so if they’re not rusted, keep em in good shape. Anti-seize is a must. Use plenty. Also, you may want to keep track of the total number of connections so when you reassemble, you don’t miss any.
The first thing to check is the pickup screen under the pump. I’m assuming you know how to remove the retaining ring that holds the pump in place and seals things up. Be carefull removing the pump. Ford is usually really tricky with these and it may seem impossible to remove. its not. if you take your time and snake it out, you'll be able to reuse it. The sender is usually part of the pump assembly so you’ll want to be carefull of that too. If the screen is plugged, I’d clean it and try to drain the tank to clean any sediment from it. Then put everything back to see if your fuel pressure increased at the rail. (by the way, this can and should be tested without even starting the vehicle. With “key on position” the pump will run for a couple seconds. You will need to cycle this a few times to “recharge” the lines and rail.) It also wouldn’t hurt to take a listen to the pump and have someone else turn the key. Before and after to hear improvement.
I always use a small amount of silicone grease on the hose connections when putting them back. Be aware tho, excess can damage fuel components if it gets in the system.
If you still have bogus pressure, I hate to say it, but its new fuel pump time. On the positive side, you’ll be well versed at tank removal.

Hope I helped. If not, let me know what the problem was and how you fixed it. Always eager to learn.

Thanks a lot for this!

Let me clearify.

I have NOT broken any bolts (yet) the ones that are on the engine holding the 5.0 plate on the intake plenum are corroded and or stirpped somehow. I never even got the chance to break them.

I have a feeling I am going to have to drop the tank also. With any luck it will just be a clogged screen.

Still sucks that I have to do it.

I jusrt figured goign after the 401 code would be easiest so I am attackingthat next.

but NOTHING on this car has been easy
 






Looks like its going to get nice and toasty this weekend (35 degrees!) so I am going to try removing the unpper intake manifold and cleaning the EGR and replacing the gaskets!

More than a little nervous.

Wish me luck.
 






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