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Dagnabit Peter, now I've gotta go out and look at my owner's manual. I KNOW I remember the recommmended oil change on my Honda and Taurus was 7,500 miles and I thought I read the same thing for my Explorer. I've got the same engine as you so maybe I didn't really see that. Gotta go look.
 



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Gerald,

You're welcome. The information we are gathering will benefit a lot of people. We appreciate you going through all the trouble taking the samples.

When we get through with this "experiment", I'm going to have a friend of mine figure out a way to get the reports online to make them available to other posters.

Let us know how we can be of further assistance.

Gary

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AgExplorer
95 XLT 4X2 4.0L OHV
AMSOIL Synthetic Lubricants & Filters
NGK Platinum Plugs
Jacobs Electronics Wires
 






Well, you're right. It's 5,000 mile recommended change intervals for my Explorer. Oh well, I never made a mistake all last year so I guess I was due Dead Link Removed

I'm curious about the dino stuff too now. If you need a "sponsor", you might email "atty" Wayne O. Smith who was the original guy who said he'd go for the offer(read his post above), but that's the last we've heard from him. I didn't know Gary "AgExplorer" was shelling out a $20 bill for each of these, so he's already paid $60 for the privilege of satisfying our curiosities. Thanks, Gary!

Gerald
 






I'll tell you what. Since I'm talking about two tests (3K & 5K), if somebody will sponsor me for one, I'll pick up the other one myself. Any takers?

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Peter
'99 Sport 4wd SOHC
 






Thanks a lot you guys! I really appriciate all the results. This is really helpful. I am assuming Dino is conventional oil? I think it would be cool to do the same with conventional oil to compare how much longer standard oil can stand up to synthetic. Also in the future it may be beneficial to do a synthetic blend and see how long that lasts. Just some ideas. Thanks a lot everyone!


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TravisN1@AOL.COM
1995 XLT 4x4
 






Okay people!...seems like everybody are going at it with Mobil 1 and AMSoil. Personally, when I used to have my '92 XLT I've used Mobil 1. The main reson of course is better for the engine wear. But seems not for the seals and gaskets, speaking for keeping the explorer for long term ownership. All I see most of these post (all over sites) was concerning oil leaks. I quote one user " no oil leaks...yet" Makes it sound like "be ready for leaks in the future" I am considering going to stay with the conventional oil. I do like changing my own oil, between 3-4 thousand miles for my new 2000. I want everybodys honest opinion for the FACTS for oils.

P.S. whats the best conventional oil out???...for all(most)people use
 






I personally use (and yes sell) Archer Pertoleum Products. This isn't an ad for Archer, they sell mostly to farmers, ranchers, and industrial contracts but I feel I can help out here. I try to stay out of all posts involving oil, my opinions are biased twards Archer and I would rather not start anything here. I think it is good that there is so much intereast in the oil analysis, and that people are trying to disprove the myths of when to change oil. The only way to really know when to change your oil is by analysis, all oils are different and they will break down at different rates. There are many different variables such as engine condition, and driving style to name a couple. Synthetic oil doesn't break down as fast as conventional oil but it does get contaminated just as fast. As soon as an oil gets contaminated it is useless. Oil may last 10,000 miles in one vehicle but only 4,000 in somebody elses identical vehicle. For example, I have found out through oil analysis that oil can only go about 3000 miles befor it becomes to contaminated (due to fourwheeling and overall poor condition of my engine) so I use 10W30 conventional oil. The oil in my Neon however can go about 8000 befor being to contaminated, so I use 10W30 syntheric. I should also point out that the oil still isn't broke down very far at this piont, just overly contaminated. I know vehicles that go 12,000 miles between oil changes.

The point I am trying to make here is that what is good for one may not be good for others. The only real way to know what will work for your engine is to establish a good oil management program. I personally have analysis done every other oil change, so I can keep an eye on my engine. It is free for me (and anyone using Archer products). As for which brand to use, pick one with a good base oil and minimal additives (79 cent Wal Mart oil isn't a good oil.) An oil with too much additive is its own worst enemy. I can prvide anyone intereasted analysis breakdown for most any brand oil both synthetic and conventional but as I said befor the only true way to know is by having YOUR oil analyzed.

This has gotten long enough. I am open for any questions or comments (good or bad).
JAY
 






Jay,
If I use your brand of oil they provide FREE oil analysis? If so is the oil synthetic or conventional and where can I purchase it? Thanks!

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TravisN1@AOL.COM
1995 XLT 4x4
 






Yes, that is true. Archer provides free oil analysis to all its customers. I really doen't know who the local dealer is around the Chicago area, or if there even is one. Archer isn't a retail oil supplier, they sell mostly in high volume (by the barrel, not the quart). If there is a local dealer though, he should be very open to selling to you, and helping you out with your first analysis (teaching you how to collect it and read the results). I will see who the closest dealer to you and let you know.
 






The District Manager for the St. Charles area is Dick Sinn, his number is (309) 923-9126. Give him a call and he can tell you the closest dealer to you is. He will also be able to answer any and all questions you may have. If you can't get ahold of him, you can call the Division Manager at (309) 289-4046. I don't know who the Division manager is right now. I hope all this helps.

JAY
 






Thanks for finding the info. I'll look into that next timne i need oil.

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TravisN1@AOL.COM
1995 XLT 4x4
 






just a word of advice, never switch back to 10w30, 5w30 etc, after having synthetic in it, and switching back, it can cause extreme wear or damage to the engine.
 






D F Willy,...really? switching back to conventional causes engine damage??..am confused when you mention 5w-30, 10w-30, etc..whether you mean switching the grade type or from the conv. to the syn. Help us out there
 






D F Willy, I also wish to hear where you learned this from.

The specific point of this entire discussion is to learn through verifiable analysis and substantiated fact what really is happening with our oil.

Please explain your comment.
 






i have heard that switching back anf forth causes no such damage. My dad switches from synthetic to conventional in our 94 E150 van and it hasen't caused noticable problems. it has 69,000 miles. Also he mostly uses synthetic in his Mercedes but sometimes will put conventional in if thats all we have. That car is a 99 with 28,000 miles. He has been told by other people who are in the car field that it won't cause any damage at all.

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TravisN1@AOL.COM
1995 XLT 4x4
 






Update. Just thought I'd let you guys know the 10k mile oil change will be occurring for sure during the Moab trip. We'll know results by mid-May.


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Gerald
"Nerves of Steel; Brain of Chipmunk"
'99 Eddie Bauer 4x4 4.0L SOHC aka "The Jeepeater"
Dead Link Removed
"What the heck is he doing out here in that thing???"
 






Gerald,

If I remember correctly, your test doesn't involve changing the filter at 5K along with a new quart of oil. Did your 5K test data mention anything about doing so? Do the numbers suggest that changing the filter and a quart is a worthwhile idea?
 






Gerald,

In your review of the 5K test data, was there anything that suggests changing the filter (along with a fresh quart of oil) at 5K is a worthwhile idea?
 






I just confirmed some interesting info. I heard that you can mix synthetic oil with conventional oil and it would not cause problems. This was interesting to me. I had thought that only one type at a time.

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TravisN1@AOL.COM
1995 XLT 4x4
80,000 miles
K&N Drop-in
Bosch +4's
BFG Long Trails
Have a nice day! :-)
 



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Jeff, you are mistaken. I did change my filter when I did the test at 5k and replaced the lost quart of oil with a new one. If you want to get specific about it, this 10k analysis will be testing 80% 10k old oil with the 20% 5k old oil added to it 5k miles ago.

Gerald
 






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