Three Aussie Mechanics cannot repair the axle seals- Unable to remove C clips in rear 8.8 Diff

[gmanpaint]

You guys need to remember where he is. He can't source new parts like we can here. A simple part that needs ordered from here, might take months, and cost 10x as much.

 

[CDW6212R]

True that is, very. If an axle can be had in a similar time as the special repair bearing kit, that would be the way to go. If the repair bearing can be received more quickly, than it may be the right answer. For normal usage, the repair bearing kit is fine, with hard use like off roading etc, you'd want a new axle and not the repair bearing, which moves the force point inboard on the axle.

 

[Scotsman01]

You guys need to remember where he is. He can't source new parts like we can here. A simple part that needs ordered from here, might take months, and cost 10x as much.

Thanks for that comment, the newer fords are quite popular, but this model has a bad rep and was not popular.

True that is, very. If an axle can be had in a similar time as the special repair bearing kit, that would be the way to go. If the repair bearing can be received more quickly, than it may be the right answer. For normal usage, the repair bearing kit is fine, with hard use like off roading etc, you'd want a new axle and not the repair bearing, which moves the force point inboard on the axle.

I mainly go beach driving/ fishing on Fraser Island, largest and beautiful in the world. That means bearing repair not a good idea. I will try to source an axle

 

[Scotsman01]

Thanks for that comment, the newer fords are quite popular, but this model has a bad rep and was not popular.

I mainly go beach driving/ fishing on Fraser Island, largest and beautiful in the world. That means bearing repair not a good idea. I will try to source an axle

Unfortunately usage affects prices here more uncommon = higher price. Don't scream, I've done that, new one will cost me AU$ 320, but really I have no choice.l

 

[CDW6212R]

No actually, for what sounds like not really that high of speed driving, given that high price of an axle, I'd go to the repair bearing myself.

I was suggesting for hard cornering or severe forces on the rear tires often to the side, moving the bearing surface would be a bad idea long term. But for normal driving and not excess forces sideways on the rear end, the repair bearings are a good option.

Is it really $320 Australian there for an axle? Here a new aftermarket axle(95-01)(check Rock Auto for examples) will be $130ish, last I checked.

 

[Scotsman01]

No actually, for what sounds like not really that high of speed driving, given that high price of an axle, I'd go to the repair bearing myself.

I was suggesting for hard cornering or severe forces on the rear tires often to the side, moving the bearing surface would be a bad idea long term. But for normal driving and not excess forces sideways on the rear end, the repair bearings are a good option.

Is it really $320 Australian there for an axle? Here a new aftermarket axle(95-01)(check Rock Auto for examples) will be $130ish, last I checked.

Thanks but I have committed to new axle. As advised I had replaced the centre to secure the gears but again it would not slide into the top one more than 1/8", confirming there is a blockage there or the top of pin is flaired. Now I have marking pens I can mark its position before I drop the gear and examine the problem

 

[Scotsman01]

No actually, for what sounds like not really that high of speed driving, given that high price of an axle, I'd go to the repair bearing myself.

I was suggesting for hard cornering or severe forces on the rear tires often to the side, moving the bearing surface would be a bad idea long term. But for normal driving and not excess forces sideways on the rear end, the repair bearings are a good option.

Is it really $320 Australian there for an axle? Here a new aftermarket axle(95-01)(check Rock Auto for examples) will be $130ish, last I checked.

Unfortunately I have checked eBay and all suppliers are ex USA plus mail and with currency conversion most end up AU$ 300. This made me accept the price from a local supplier.
While waiting I will inspect the top centre gear for the reason for jamming the centre pin.
Also some advice as to whether I should take the clutch plates out to clean due to the sludge found on both shafts would be appreciated. The video supplied shows a method

 

[Scotsman01]

Now I am at this stage should I close this thread and create another with a current heading. Not sure of the protocol?

 

[gmanpaint]

Nope, keep it open for further discussion.

There are other members here from AUSTRALIA, and they might want to chime in.

 

[Scotsman01]

Nope, keep it open for further discussion.

There are other members here from AUSTRALIA, and they might want to chime in.

Ok, will keep going on this feed

 

[1991 sploder]

Could u take a picture of the groove?

 

[Scotsman01]

Could u take a picture of the groove?

I don't know why but transferring my phone photos just doesn't happen to this site. Apart from that I have commited to buying a new shaft, but any Aussie looking a damaged shaft are welcome to it.

 

[CDW6212R]

You can clean the gears and clutches by removing them if you like. You can spray brake cleaner into the assembly right where the clutches are without harming anything. The front seal is the only real item to avoid getting any solvent to, and that's way up front past the pinion gear and bearing. Spray in there as you like, without directing it right at the front between the housing and pinion gear. A new clutch replacement kit is a good $75 here, plus taxes and shipping. You likely need those if they haven't been replaced in very recent years.

 

[1991 sploder]

There is a tolerance on that shaft... Yea I can feel it with the nail but either measureable with a micrometer or not. There's always going to be a small groove there.

 

[Scotsman01]

There is a tolerance on that shaft... Yea I can feel it with the nail but either measureable with a micrometer or not. There's always going to be a small groove there.

When I finally got the leaky seal off, the bearing fell apart. So rather than do more damage I am getting a mechanic in to install both bearings and seals, but I can take it from there

 

[1991 sploder]

I would just have him finish the job ask about the axle on that side but it isn't like there's a bunch of pressure in the diff shouldn't really leak even with the groove prob less than a couple microns like thousand of an inch I'm guessing...

 

[1991 sploder]

Roller bearings fall apart alot of times

 

[Scotsman01]

Thanks for all your Assistance to date. Without your and all the others I wouldn't have got this far

 

[Scotsman01]

I would just have him finish the job ask about the axle on that side but it isn't like there's a bunch of pressure in the diff shouldn't really leak even with the groove prob less than a couple microns like thousand of an inch I'm guessing...

I guess in this drama there was a few ' if only" but when this is over I still will have saved at least AU$ 1500. Labour is very expensive here.

 

[410Fortune]

the vent tube on this axle is located on the drivers side tube, the small metal nipple that accepts a rubber hose, the hose leads up to the frame where it terminates into a vent cap.

Remove rubber hose, blow compressed air through fitting into the axle tube
Then blow through the rubber hose, make sure it is free and clear and can breathe, then hook it back up