Trying to get it right-

[MountaineerGreen]

If you are arc welding, use another rod as a filler as if you were brazing- it takes a bit of practice, but does work.

 

[Turdle]

would the egr I got from bob work for you?

You haven't used it yet--heck yeah I'll try it!!

could you by pass it for now? I know you dont want to...

It's either now or later-it needs fixed before I even fire it up

turn your feed up and your heat down, take your time. dun know what else to tell you. if its really thin tubing you might be sol they might have used a mig to weld them it at the shop (i would have)

Thanks-
I'll try that. My wire speed was at 3--and temp was on high--

 

[techieman33]

You haven't used it yet--heck yeah I'll try it!!

Ok, i'll bring it down thursday, I doubt shipping it would be any faster.

 

[Turdle]

Eric--I love ya man!!

Well I think today is set the lower intake day--if it will quit raining--

 

[Turdle]

Current questions
1
coolant crossover lines at rear of Typhoon lower intake-stock intake had none-

new intake has no provision for coolant to upper--do I connect the coolant lines on rear of new lower to the coolant bypass assembly for explorer heater core?
2
Lifters-does the oil feed hole on the side of lifter face the center of block, or the outer wall? ( Mine are facing center now and adjusted)
3
Edelbrock heads (performer EFI) have Egr passage holes-I am using an external EGR pipe-
Do I plug the holes in the heads? It feeds to a center hole in the manifold's upper-power junction
If so, how should it be plugged?

4
Am I safe using "MEGA BLACK" (not regular black) Permatex sealer for my Throttle body, Elbow and upper side plate gaskets?

 

[Turdle]

If you are arc welding, use another rod as a filler as if you were brazing- it takes a bit of practice, but does work.

Oh-
if I lay hunk of metal or wire in there as a filler than weld?
That will work?

 

[Turdle]

Sorry guys-question #3 is a pressing issue-
let me 'splain

I just talked to the Edelbrock guy-he said there is usually a block off gasket punch out piece in the intake gasket set-which there is--

HOWEVER!!
When I took the lower off-I noticed a definite egr passage-either the gasket wasn't used by my engine builder .
or--
the block off gasket had blown through-
He doesn't remember and this is a confusing issue-I don't blame him for getting this wrong at all-as Mustangs would use the flow allowing gasket.
Has anyone used the block off tabs-or can you verify they really work?


This set of Edelbrock gaskets is supposed to be "tested to a higher temp than fel pro" the Edelbrock guy said.





With this free flowing EGR I had?-WTF was going on inside my engine???-
it seemed to run fine-

Was the "internal" egr flow actually blocked off somewhere-or just flowing into my engine?

I would like to set this lower intake-these things need answering.

Am I a guinea pig?

 

[Dan Whitaker]

Take a pic of the heads so we can see what you are talking about.

Right now I'm all

 

[410Fortune]

make gaskets using gasket material not silicoln IMO for the TB and Elbow
I cut my own

I deleted the stupid coolant lines along the lower intake thingy on both my trucks, no coolant lines into my factory intakes
I ran the heater core hoses just like the old days, no stupid metal manifold and intake coolant passages for me (just more things to go wrong IMO)
Even when its -20 my truck still fires up, no ice on my TB

 

[Turdle]

Anybody that laughs at my home made EGR tube gets banned for 3 minutes--!

Here it is-made out of 2-with the tube i removed yesterday.

When this was done I had nobody to turn to-everyone around here was saying things like--"it's a Ford--screw it-
It's got fuel injection-get a carb-or
if it was me I'd junk the egr and weld a plate over it--"

friggin morons!!!!!!

So, I was on my own-and made this. I am determined to keep my EGR and pollutions stuff---

in the second pic--black arrow shows hole where tube was-I made it better but created a need for 2 blue arrows--

This is what I need to fix-I think an auto darkening shade has it's place in this world after all.

 

[Turdle]

Take a pic of the heads so we can see what you are talking about.

Right now I'm all

First picture--head intake surface-arrow is EGR passage--

Second pic-

Yellow is the EGR passage area-
Red =block off tabs
green=flow allowing tabs


Boy-The Edelbrock family sure doesn't want you forgetting their name--

 

[Dan Whitaker]

I would say use the block off tabs on both sides and you should be o.k.

You can see a deffinate rectangle shape on the head around the EGR hole from the old gasket. I would say the block offs were not used orignially.

 

[Xan]

Current questions

2
Lifters-does the oil feed hole on the side of lifter face the center of block, or the outer wall? ( Mine are facing center now and adjusted)
3
Edelbrock heads (performer EFI) have Egr passage holes-I am using an external EGR pipe-
Do I plug the holes in the heads? It feeds to a center hole in the manifold's upper-power junction
If so, how should it be plugged?

4
Am I safe using "MEGA BLACK" (not regular black) Permatex sealer for my Throttle body, Elbow and upper side plate gaskets?

2. this actauly doesn't matter much i ussaly try to get them facing out twords the outside cause the oil sits on the outside.

3. Should you block it yeah. is it gonna hurt anything if you don't? No. the problem with plugging it is its not so safe putting anything in there to plug it cause after a long time it might come loose and i wouldn't want anything in my engine. those block off tabs will work nice though

4. i wouldn't use that you should be using a dry gasket, bbuuuutt a non-silicone gasket maker (sensor safe would) be ok


i'm not 100% on 1 i hate cooling systems, i din't even run a heater core in alot of my project cars for a while

 

[CougarX]

If you don't block off the EGR at all doesn't it still get blocked at the throttle body? Mustangs use the EGR plate/spacer to pull the EGR gases back into the intake and 96-97 V8 Exlorers did the same but through the EGR passage in the throttle body elbow. Without the EGR plate don't the EGR passages just dead end at the throttle body?

My stock GT-40P heads and stock intake have the EGR passages all the way up to the throttle body elbow, but then there is no EGR passage through the elbow so its a dead end and there is no where for the gases to go. This is the way it came from Ford so I assume it's reliable and has no side effects like this. You're elbow probably has the EGR passages but the throttle body should n't so it would stop the flow.

As for the throttle body and elbow gaskets I would use gaskets instead of RTV. I think both gaskets cost me $6 at Advance Auto. I know yours are slightly different but I assume Mustang gaskets would work which should cost about the same.

 

[Turdle]

I guess I need to get gaskets--hrmph-
I was wanting to use the "OEM SAFE" mega black for a cleaner look--

on a side note--
I painted my throttle body with aluminum silver paint-then lightly oversprayed with black, followed by a coat of satin poly-
yeah-it might burn off-------

it looks pretty good though--I'll take it for now. It actually looks kind o spattered up close. I kinda like it--

 

[Turdle]

If you don't block off the EGR at all doesn't it still get blocked at the throttle body? Mustangs use the EGR plate/spacer to pull the EGR gases back into the intake and 96-97 V8 Exlorers did the same but through the EGR passage in the throttle body elbow. Without the EGR plate don't the EGR passages just dead end at the throttle body?

My stock GT-40P heads and stock intake have the EGR passages all the way up to the throttle body elbow, but then there is no EGR passage through the elbow so its a dead end and there is no where for the gases to go. This is the way it came from Ford so I assume it's reliable and has no side effects like this. You're elbow probably has the EGR passages but the throttle body should n't so it would stop the flow

That is what it looks like to me also--I just wasn't sure.

 

[410Fortune]

okay I have both setups for egr

the BII uses P heads, so it has the external EGR
The 96 is just GT-40 so it has internal EGR

Both the upper and lower intakes are identical on both the P and non p head GT-40
The EGR ports are simply blocked off at the ELBOW, that is the only difference intake wise on these suckers
You can block it off wherever you want.

At the elbow gasket the EGR hole just plain stops..there is alot of carbon in there

 

[Turdle]

So-blocking the egr off at the head should help keep the intake cooler?

I knew something ultra hot was going through my spacer. Now I may try to get it painted stove black--

 

[Xan]

So-blocking the egr off at the head should help keep the intake cooler?

I knew something ultra hot was going through my spacer. Now I may try to get it painted stove black--

yeah it would, thats why i said it wouldn't hurt anything to not block it off there, but the block off tabs are a good thing

 

[Turdle]

yeah it would, thats why i said it wouldn't hurt anything to not block it off there, but the block off tabs are a good thing

Hey-I thought you were on your way here 5 pages ago--

We're making a run up there the weekend of October 20-21 I think.