supercharged 5.0 true fire 98 explorer sport

[ahodges]

Crap. You are in uncharted territory for me on this one again too. I haven't even changed the oil in my blower yet because i fear having to take it off to drain it and refill it

 

[Rick]

Sorry to see this Tim. I'm hoping that it's something you can fix on your own. Just another procedure to learn.

 

[vroomzoomboom]

Crap. You are in uncharted territory for me on this one again too. I haven't even changed the oil in my blower yet because i fear having to take it off to drain it and refill it

i think i changed the oil in the m90 once. the m112 twice. i just wish i could figure out why it leaked out. i am sure it went into the case because there is no signs of oil on the outside anyplace at all.

Sorry to see this Tim. I'm hoping that it's something you can fix on your own. Just another procedure to learn.

it happens right? not really positive on me being able to fix it on my own however. i did call stiegemeier this morning and they said they will look for a rotor pack for me. i also called a few places here and nobody that i can find so far can repair them. i know winnipeg is a spec on the map, but sometimes i am baffled on how little support there is for things like this around me.
ive also posted in svt forum as well. not sure if i will get anything from it because i am barely on there, and most times people dont want to ship to canada. even when we are more then willing to pay shipping!

 

[donalds]

i think i changed the oil in the m90 once. the m112 twice. i just wish i could figure out why it leaked out. i am sure it went into the case because there is no signs of oil on the outside anyplace at all.

Just putting this out there
I been told several times by several people to only use anaerobic gasket maker ...oem...
Or the oil will leak out

My thoughts I'm probably wrong
The blower oil eats the rtv a piece came off ground to dust then a piece got into rotor pack seal s
Then all the oil leaks into your intake then burned.
And poof dolores was gone

Just my thoughts

 

[vroomzoomboom]

i would agree on that, however i do have a argument for it. the m112 that i had was sealed up the same way, and never had a problem with it at all. when i sealed this one up, i used the right stuff. i literally was prying it on the tabs that you use to take them apart to get the snout and rotor pack off.

 

[Dono]

I guess the good news is that the oil blow-by you thought was coming from the motor, wasn't from the motor after-all.

The bad news is..........umm, we all already know the bad news. :-(

 

[4pointslow]

The seals that keep the oil in the rotor pack do fail and the vacuum in the intake will suck all the oil out through them.
If it had never been touched before it would have 11 year old seals? If it came off a 2009?

Get another rotor pack and install it, fill it with oil and then run it to warm it up. After it is warm open the fill plug and let the pressure out.
Then when it cools you will have a slight vacuum in the case which is supposed to help the seals last longer.
Check the oil frequently until you know it is not leaking.

Bob S might be able to install a clear sight glass fill plug in the snout for you in the future? I saw them on his site but am not sure if he has them for the snout you are using?

I had a M112 lightning supercharger start to get noisy and found it empty, swapped in another one and only used it for a short time.
Then changed to the M122 off the GT500.
Anyway, hope you get it back to life again soon! Truck is awesome!

 

[vroomzoomboom]

That makes a ton of sense, that and I think it came off a 07, either way it never entered my mind before until that happened. Lol, bob was the first one I called this morning to. He is going to look and see if he has a core, will call him tomorrow and see if he found anything. I also called superchargers online, but they didn’t have anything in stock at the moment (was funny, they guy I was talking to I explained what I built but it sounded like a hack job, so I sent him the thread link, he couldn’t believe what the truck looked like or what the install looked like lol). i did however found a thread on how I guy took a m90 rotor pack apart and also gave the bearing and seal numbers. I have the link at home and will post it when I’m home from work. Now if they are the same and I will call bob and ask him, I have a local place that can get a lot of odd stuff like that. When I called them with the numbers I found in that thread, they had them in stock and probably will come out to $20 in parts. If that’s the case, I look at it like I have nothing to lose and may try to do it myself. Will have to make the gears, and rotors as well as check the measurements between the plate and rotors with a feeler gauge before taking it apart if I do it.

 

[vroomzoomboom]

here is the link i found for the rotors

Blower rebuild instructions

I have a complete rebuild kit for my Eaton M90. I did not receive detailed instructions for installing all the seals & bearings. I have replace some of the seals and bearings in a M90 before but not a complete replace everything including the rotors. I am sure I will get it done but instructions...

www.sccoa.com

it is however for a m90. i am going to call stiegemeier in the morning and ask if

a - he has found a rotor pack and how funny will i walk after hearing the price or
b - if m90's and m122's have the same part numbers for seals and bearings as well as is it possible for me to time them and how. thats if he is willing to give that up.

 

[donalds]

That is the article I used to rebuild mine one of them
Also I have all the rebuild parts bearings and seals
If you need parts numbers
I'd buy a rebuilt rotor pack
Rebuilding them is a ***** the first time
Here is the seller I bought from
Supercharger Complete Rebuild kit fits M112 Jaguar Land Rover Range Eaton 4.2 | eBay

 

[410Fortune]

clear sight glass is the best idea ever.....visual indicator of the oil level....I cannot believe there is no dipstick or sight glass??
Im starting to like my turbos more and more, fed oil from crankcase.....I always figured superchargers were similar!! Dang

 

[vroomzoomboom]

That is the article I used to rebuild mine one of them
Also I have all the rebuild parts bearings and seals
If you need parts numbers
I'd buy a rebuilt rotor pack
Rebuilding them is a ***** the first time
Here is the seller I bought from
Supercharger Complete Rebuild kit fits M112 Jaguar Land Rover Range Eaton 4.2 | eBay

if you have part numbers, please send them my way.

when i looked at this link

Thunderbird infoway - Tbird and Cougar information

it mentions

Rotor seals - Chicago Rawhide Part# 8522

Front rotor bearings - NSK Part#NC6203C3X28

i called a bolt and bearing supply place thats in my town, and to my surprise they had those in stock for around $5 each! i just dont know if there is anything else in there like shims or something like that.

clear sight glass is the best idea ever.....visual indicator of the oil level....I cannot believe there is no dipstick or sight glass??
Im starting to like my turbos more and more, fed oil from crankcase.....I always figured superchargers were similar!! Dang

there are drawbacks from that as well imo. sure, using the oil from the motor is good, but, you have a turbo let loose guess where the oil is headed or vise versa. and the plumbing involved....wow. dono's truck isnt too bad because his is rear mount, but others you have tubes everywhere.

well, i have located a supercharger locally from a wrecker that is willing to sell me the rotor pack. it to supposedly has no mileage on it as well and off a 08. i am a little leery now of buying it for the same reason why i am where i am now.

 

[donalds]

Rotor seals - Chicago Rawhide Part# 8522

Front rotor bearings - NSK Part#NC6203C3X28

bearing you are correct
the seals are different 2 sizes one has part numbers on it cr8515 the other has no part numbers
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-...0001&campid=5574912417&icep_item=252025391987

 

[vroomzoomboom]

bearing you are correct
the seals are different 2 sizes one has part numbers on it cr8515 the other has no part numbers
Supercharger Rotor Pack Bearings and Seals rebuild kit fits Eaton | eBay

unreal of the mark up they do. notice they hide the part numbers on the box?

 

[donalds]

skf bearings 6203 C3

 

[vroomzoomboom]

thanks for doing that video!

 

[vroomzoomboom]

so i was able to find a rotor pack this week locally. this one too is a a brand new take off, so i am a little nervous on the seals being the same as the one that got trashed.

also took a look at the pulley that i had on the blower when it happened

i guess the motor didnt stall out as fast as i thought, or i heard it sizing up when it was happening.

i wanted to get everything done for today so i could put it back together as well.
then it happened.......

wanted to make sure the bolts for the pulley were good and tight, so not thinking i used my 3/8 impact on it with the snout off and forgot i am using stainless bolts.....hub is buggered now. but this also leaves me with a dilemma on my hands. i can order a new hub from jegs for around 70 u.s. (90 canadian) before shipping. the problem is it wont ship unit the 19th and it will take a week to get here. there is a good chance it will start snowing by then.
or, i get a Billetflow pulley and hub from lethal performance that will cost 176 u.s. (230 canadian) before shipping. Billetflow Non-Slip Pulley System (Hub and 1 Pulley)
or see if a machine shop could make a new hub costing who knows.
the billetflow is a tad smaller, but grooved so the belt has a better grip, but will decrease belt life, and leave belt dust everywhere and they should have it in stock...i think.
get another metco hub, and hope this doesnt happen again, and just wait for it to come.
or machine shop, and take my chances on price and if it will last......

on a side note, the pack i got had a grey finish on it, not black so i ended up having 3 different colors on the blower. once again i knew that would only last so long with me, so i figured i would paint it and the snout so they all sorta match a lot better.

its also thanksgiving weekend here right now, so i have a day or two to figure out what i want to do. anyone have opinions?

 

[donalds]

Happy turkey day my Canadian friend enjoy the gravy

 

[gmanpaint]

Sorry man, that stinks.

Let it wait if you can. You know the part will work.

 

[410Fortune]

that hub cant be saved? What is the material? steel?
Dang stainless bolts so soft!!!