My turbocharged 2000 5.0 AWD....

[justin146]

wow , very jealous. Could the filter suck up any water or do any damage when it rains? How many miles does your 5.0 have?

Where is your intercooler?

The filter is over 2feet from the ground, and I have a K&N Drycharger ordered for it. The Drycharger is what STS uses on their kits. It is made out of a treated cloth that sheds water. I dont have an intercooler- I dont see how I could do a front mounted. When I increase boost, I'll probably add a meth injection system.

 

[Turdle]

Hey, check this out.
I wonder if it would help?

Air bypass valve

 

[danlong]

This is what I've been planning for my truck for some time now, ever since I started hearing about STS. I'm glad to see it can be done for a very reasonable price by putting the parts together yourself, as their universal kit is pretty expensive and doesn't even include any piping if I remember correctly. You've got to get it tuned and get some numbers up!!!!

 

[justin146]

This is what I've been planning for my truck for some time now, ever since I started hearing about STS. I'm glad to see it can be done for a very reasonable price by putting the parts together yourself, as their universal kit is pretty expensive and doesn't even include any piping if I remember correctly. You've got to get it tuned and get some numbers up!!!!

Their universal kit is $3000, but that is with a Garrett turbo- and no intake tubing. The Power Master turbos are what alot of the turbo Mustang guys are using and are great quality for half the price of a Garrett. If you wanted to do it even cheaper, find a junkyard that has diesel trucks and find yourself a Holset HY35 or HX35 off of a late model Cummins Dodge.

I am in the process of finding a tuner. I want to take it to Bamachips( in Birmingham) but that is pretty far to drive. I dont know of any tuners around me in north Mississippi- especially one that will have an AWD dyno.

 

[justin146]

Hey, check this out.
I wonder if it would help?

Air bypass valve

problem is, for that to work, the bypass valve would have to be in a dry location. Since the filter is directly on the turbo, if the filter was wet, the bypass valve would be too.

 

[CougarX]

If you open the install instructions for that air bypass valve, it specifically says that it will not work with a turbo or supercharger. They work based on pressure, and the turbo adds pressure to the system so it may not shut off if water was sucked in. Besides, if you sucked in enough water to kill the engine (or activate this valve), I think the turbo would be toast too.

Did you look into mounting the turbo further forward on the chassis? Why didn't you mount it just behind the cats where the stock muffler used to be? Seems like this would have let you run shorter pipes, been a bit more dry of a location, and helped with power a bit (shorter exhaust, more heat, less tube to build pressure in).

 

[justin146]

Did you look into mounting the turbo further forward on the chassis? Why didn't you mount it just behind the cats where the stock muffler used to be? Seems like this would have let you run shorter pipes, been a bit more dry of a location, and helped with power a bit (shorter exhaust, more heat, less tube to build pressure in).

That is where I was originally planning on running it, but I would have had to rework the exhaust to make enough room. There isnt that much of a pressure loss between where I have it now and where the stock muffler was. That location would have put my air filter alot closer to the ground though- where it is now it's pretty high off of the ground. With the Drycharger installed, water shouldn't be a problem. If it is, I'll install the stock airbox under there with a K&N dropin filter. STS says the cover sheds water really well- just look at their GTO kit; the filter is directly behind the rear tire.

 

[conig]

once again big props man.

 

[stang99x]

I'm curious here. Most turbo/supercharger systems are built with one thing in mind. The least amount of piping possible between the power adder and the TB. There has to be a ***** of a delay with runs that long, and a helluva blow off afterwards. I have never seen anything like this done.

ALlthough I think it is an interesting idea, I don't forsee 350RWHP. I'd ballpark it around 250-275. Remember, that is RWHP not FWHP

 

[conig]

I'm curious here. Most turbo/supercharger systems are built with one thing in mind. The least amount of piping possible between the power adder and the TB. There has to be a ***** of a delay with runs that long, and a helluva blow off afterwards. I have never seen anything like this done.

ALlthough I think it is an interesting idea, I don't forsee 350RWHP. I'd ballpark it around 250-275. Remember, that is RWHP not FWHP

look at the size of the charge pipe, next to the exhaust, its small as crap to keep velocity up. take a hose and put a pressure nozzle on it, the same amount of water is coming up but with much higher velocity becuase of the size. same basic principle here .

for him it is fwhp beucase he is four wheel drive.

 

[frickea86]

i'm not a big turbo/supercharger guy, meaning dont' know much about them but the pros with a remote turbo is by the time the compressed air gets back to the intake its been cooled down from the travel. they say there isn't a "hudge" difference between locations, just based on preference. thats what i've heard and the remote turbo setup is becomming more widely used because of engine compartment space issues.

 

[justin146]

I'm curious here. Most turbo/supercharger systems are built with one thing in mind. The least amount of piping possible between the power adder and the TB. There has to be a ***** of a delay with runs that long, and a helluva blow off afterwards. I have never seen anything like this done.

ALlthough I think it is an interesting idea, I don't forsee 350RWHP. I'd ballpark it around 250-275. Remember, that is RWHP not FWHP

these links should answer all of your questions... http://ststurbo.com/f_a_q http://ststurbo.com/benefits

I have less intake pipe volume than a typical front mounted turbo with intercooler. There is no long delay for boost and the blow off is normal. There is a guy in Alabama (he is a member here) with this setup on a 4.0 Sport that puts Mustangs to shame at the track every weekend with 8psi

 

[Afboy143]

If I were to buy all the same exact things you bought, would this work on my truck? (4.0 SOHC) I wanted to do the eaton m90 with C&M kit (supercharger) for xmas but Id much rather be turboed. If your list is what I would need, I need to start buyin parts as I find them cheap. Do you find yourself running lean/rich at all? Your only 6 psi correct? Any fuel injector/fuel pump problems?

 

[95offroadx]

great build up! wow i might just have to swap one under my 1st gen

 

[Afboy143]

Also, let me get this right, you used 2" exhaust piping, then from the wastegate to the intake you used 2" intercooler piping?

 

[justin146]

Also, let me get this right, you used 2" exhaust piping, then from the wastegate to the intake you used 2" intercooler piping?

The 2" pipe is on the charge pipe from the turbo to the BOV(it uses 2" exhaust tubing and 2" mandrel bends), then it goes up to 3" to match the MAF size. The exhaust pipe to the turbo is the stock exhaust. The exhaust pipe leaving the turbo is 3". All of the tubing is mandrel bent.

 

[justin146]

If I were to buy all the same exact things you bought, would this work on my truck? (4.0 SOHC) I wanted to do the eaton m90 with C&M kit (supercharger) for xmas but Id much rather be turboed. If your list is what I would need, I need to start buyin parts as I find them cheap. Do you find yourself running lean/rich at all? Your only 6 psi correct? Any fuel injector/fuel pump problems?

I am running my injectors at about 99% duty cycle at only 3.63 psi at about 3500RPM(based on my cheap oscilloscope). I dont run lean at WOT around town, but I would if I did a 1/4 mile pass. I went over the list and I think it covers it all.

James (jah81592) has a setup almost identical to mine on a 4.0 SOCH, so I say go for it. Although, that M90 would be a much more simple install since you dont have an oiling system.

 

[Afboy143]

I am running my injectors at about 99% duty cycle at only 3.63 psi at about 3500RPM(based on my cheap oscilloscope). I dont run lean at WOT around town, but I would if I did a 1/4 mile pass. I went over the list and I think it covers it all.

James (jah81592) has a setup almost identical to mine on a 4.0 SOCH, so I say go for it. Although, that M90 would be a much more simple install since you dont have an oiling system.

Is an oiling system that much harder? Id much rather be turbo; however, Im not as savvy with it. James was saying he spent around $3k to do his set up, yours was a little cheaper (actually alot) so it caught my eye

Dont you need a turbo guage or something that that tells the turbo how much lbs of boost to push?

 

[Jakee]

Guys - This is nothing new (Not taking any credit from you Justin cuss you've done a great job)

Goto www.ststurbo.com

You'll see that there are a BUNCH of benefits doing a remote mounted turbo as Justin has. One good thing is the HEAT generated from a turbo will dissipate faster remotely mounted.

 

[Jakee]

Alfboy - If you're wanting the most HP you can get you better go turbo. If you're wanting quick throttle responce, go the M90. You can read about this at the ststurbo link I just posted.