Robb's SAS

[BUCHVILLEMAN]

Dont use compression fittings on brakes, unless you have a death wish.... it may cost a few extra bucks but its worth it..... I mean, you are putting your life on those brakes right??

i agree. thats what the guy at the machine shop suggested. i think napa probably has my solution.

 

[Yomie]

Your fahkin nuts gabe!

 

[Skunk]

Originally posted by BUCHVILLEMAN
and for your viewing pleasure here is what i call the "dance of the dismembered crossmember"

Reminds me of this one:

http://www.extremexplorers.com/evil3.mpg

 

[BUCHVILLEMAN]

dude i saw your vid like a week before i cut the crossmember off and i was like "thats funny laughing" when that sucker finally came off the bottom of mine i was like "now i understand the laugh" what a sweet rush!

i got brake lines resolved. i had bought one of those $35 double flare kits last week, but the ex has hardened lines that wont flare. im goign to pick up lines that have a softer metal and do the job right. im not going to even romotely risk this. if i feel only 99% about this ill can it andbuy all new lines or whatever i gotta do. i got 2 little boys that love to go wheeling and i cant risk that.

looks like another $20. this projec tis starting to get a little expensive.

about $500 invested so far. new tires and wheels in the next few days too

 

[Robb]

BUCHVILLEMAN

Taking a closer look at your pics..........one question..............shackles?

Robb

edit: oh wait, are those shackles on the front? why did you choose to put them on the front?

 

[DasFrem]

Ah, the age old arguement of shackles up front or reversed. If I can remember correctly, shackles reveresed offer a better ride quality whereas shackles up front offer a little better traction since when the spring compresses it pushes the axle forward into the obstical to achieve more traction. Or at least that's what I think I heard.

 

[Robb]

Interesting. I have heard it mentioned a couple of times, but I never read any of the arguments about it. I was under the impression that since most of the time you are driving forward, that obstacles you hit would drive the axle back and up via the shackle. Whereas, with no shackle in the back, a hit obstacle would just kinda drive the leaf into its own mount with no way to absorb the shock.

Robb

 

[Skunk]

ok... driveshaft comes tomorrow, its a chevy shaft, and from what I hear it will work with just redrilling the bolt holes that hold it to the t-case. Ill keep everyone informed. its MUCH cheaper then gettin one through superlift, this shaft is only $50.

 

[Robb]

Bling Bling!!!

 

[white96x]

i'm impressed-it's come a long way-great job!

 

[Rx4phun]

that is a work of art!! assuming it works but with cory's rep I am sure it is nothing shy of impressive

 

[jeffseal]

BAD ASS!!

also i remember someone here had an extra scout box.

here is a wanted add for one
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115887

 

[oso_polar]

Any pics of the steering yet??

It looks amazing! I smell a SAS in a near future!

EDIT:

35's?? or 33's???

 

[Shagnasty]

Is there going to be a write up on parts and whatnot? I just got a $1700 tax return, and a raise in march. And if I cancel my warranty, that'll be another 900.

C'mon... what do i do? What do I buy? I swear, whoever walks me through this will get a LOT of beer when I attend my first event.

(One thing though... I need to add an xfer case to my **** too)

 

[BUCHVILLEMAN]

from my experience watching those with shackle reversal they drop drive shafts left and right. now im not saying that everyone is like this as i know that it can work when engineered properly. i know that its suppossed to increase ride comfort but i dont buy that either - having rode in a jeep with the conversion before and after - the only difference was the dropping of the drive shaft, no real ride comfort. also the driv shaft seem like it would take a greater beating to me. the other thing is - i can swithc it at anytime. my front mounts are identical to rear. im using the waggy shackles.

spring perches will be here and i got gear set coming as well. ill be rolling this weekend.

i dont have my camera with me. ill have pics of steering soon though.

shag,
i think that you could gather most your info from this thread to do this swap. if not then there are like half a dozen guys who i am sure will answer any question you may have. btw- i like beer - so start asking some questions.

 

[james t]

Originally posted by BUCHVILLEMAN
having rode in a jeep with the conversion before and after - the only difference was the dropping of the drive shaft, no real ride comfort.

in my experience with helping someone do this, and driving it before and after, it doesnt help the ride at all. what it does help is the road walk issues. this is no big deal unless you have one thats a daily driver. down south, we have alot of "road sag" from log trucks and summer heat. the heep seemed to stay in its lane much better, without near as much steering input. actual ride quality did not change.

the driveshaft dropping issue can easily be cured with a proper length shaft with alot of spline. we had a local shop modify his for around $100, and it hasnt dropped once since on the trail, even with the 3/4 eliptic springs and 13" travel Rancho's.

 

[BUCHVILLEMAN]

we have a lot of grooves in the road too from the log trucks. this is goign to be my daily driver... its all about what works. if shackel forward doestn work then ill swith it around. with the 32s my tires find the grooves bad enough im not sure what it will be like with 33s or 35s.

i had a shop quote me $50 for lengthening but this was to just add some tube im sure. nothing to do with long slip or anything.

thanks for the input.

 

[taxx]

Originally posted by morrisey0
Bling Bling!!!

Looks great! got any side shots? Really puts those 33s in perspective.

What did you end up with in the rear? That looks like more than just an SOA?

 

[CoryL]

The shackle reversal is ususally done for tracking purposes on road and you are less likely to bash the shackle on a rock or something on approach. Robb has the stock bumper for now, but he was debating going to something customer later, so I prepped the shackle reversal for the future bumper change.

 

[JoshC]

Those wheels and tires look familiar

that's very sweet. Robb, are you happy with the turn out (if not, to late!) I think that's about how much fender clearance i want on mine. Leaves the possiblity for bigger tires, and plus i think it looks sweet!

Happy trails!!