"TURDLE" or " How to mess up a perfectly good truck"

[99SportX]

Good to know that heat shield is necessary. Too bad we found this out at your expense Jon.

I would patch it up and then make an aluminum heat shield. Rivet it to the box, but put some space between the box and heat shield if possible, just to allow some air to get between there. It will help reduce temps of the box. If the aluminum is nice and shiny it will help reflect some of that heat.

You can get some heat shield products made by DEI at Summit Racing. They have all sorts of heat protective materials. Some are self adhesive so you can stick the stuff to whatever.

 

[racinjason68]

Just take a hammer to the header.... "clearance it" LOL

 

[Turdle]

Man, you guys if I could get in between the header and hvac cover panel I would patch it, however, I do have a new --rather -used one which will bolt right in place.
Once I gain enough access why not just put the new one with heat shield on there?

I do appreciate the suggestions though. Anything to help is appreciated, and, now that I finally have that headers sealed I really hate to break it. Maybe once I am really in there I will see a short cut.

I think I could fit 2 -10" pushers in front of the ac condenser very easily. I noticed my plastic fan has cracked, so now I would like to switch back to the metal one as I do think they actually flow more air. The hunt is on.

 

[Turdle]

OK, here is what I am up against. Getting a good patch, with room for the heat shield and a space in between will be very difficult.

However, I have this

So, Dang. Looks like I have some wrenching to do.

 

[Premier]

can you put some heat wrap on the headers?

 

[celly]

Yikes Jonny! If I know you, you'll figure something out, creatively speaking. Good luck bro.

 

[Turdle]

can you put some heat wrap on the headers?

Hmmm, I am tempted, however it will mean no further warranty support.

 

[inh]

Hmmm, I am tempted, however it will mean no further warranty support.

That's rediculous. I've seen so many wrapped headers and the only place they had issues was where it wasn't wrapped... Even then, it was just rust which would have happend on all of the header had they not been wrapped..

 

[Maniak]

What about a clamp on heat shield.. Those shuldn't affect the waranty.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Thermo+Tec/893/11620/10002/-1

~Mark

 

[Turdle]

What about a clamp on heat shield.. Those shuldn't affect the waranty.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Thermo+Tec/893/11620/10002/-1

~Mark

Now that looks like a good idea to me, Thanks Mark!!

 

[CDW6212R]

That looks tough, and Mark has a good idea to help. I'd put the new AC box in and shift it to the right if it will go at all. Make another aluminum sheet barrier to attach to those OEM studs. Also, if possible, run some piping from the front to that area, get a high pressure area at the radiator to push air through pipe to the spot.

If you can get any real air flow through the space between the AC and header, the heat will not be too much.

Let me know how much space you end up with, to help with building headers. I just found out Canfield heads are no longer available.

 

[Turdle]

Well , My friend Mark came by and with his help we have upper intake, coil packs and fuel pressure regulator pulled, and new HVAC cover installed.

The cover needed quite a bit of persuasion and manipulation to get around the evaporator while squeezing between the header, but I was able to leave the header installed.

Now to wipe it down a bit and throw it all together. The powdercoating really could be redone as I did this with a bad batch of clear I have fought. Should I take time to re powder coat my upper intake and tube?

hmmm

 

[celly]

Well , My friend Mark came by and with his help we have upper intake, coil packs and fuel pressure regulator pulled, and new HVAC cover installed.

The cover needed quite a bit of persuasion and manipulation to get around the evaporator while squeezing between the header, but I was able to leave the header installed.

Now to wipe it down a bit and throw it all together. The powdercoating really could be redone as I did this with a bad batch of clear I have fought. Should I take time to re powder coat my upper intake and tube?

hmmm

Waytogo dudes. I knew you'd sort it out. Go for the powdercoat. Just hit the porch while the baking is taking place and it will done in no time.

Brad

 

[CDW6212R]

Well good, how much space do you have there now?

 

[Turdle]

Waytogo dudes. I knew you'd sort it out. Go for the powdercoat. Just hit the porch while the baking is taking place and it will done in no time.

Brad

To do so means a whole bunch of dis assembly, I have decided to put if off for a while.

Well good, how much space do you have there now?

Don, it looks like a strong inch now. I would think with the shield that is plenty.

 

[CDW6212R]

Good, I was worried that it was more like 1/2" and would melt it again.

 

[Scott B.]

So this means you are going to Colorado, right?????

 

[turboexplorer]

then--to make it worse, it would seem the only way the truck will get enough airflow at slow speeds to cool properly with the ac running, I will need a nice electric puller. I have a Mark 8 fan, and Techieman33's single core radiator at my disposal. The radiator might still need moved forward a but though.

Any ideas out there for me?

Make sure that the clutch on the fan is in good order, and do your two tranny cooler fans block some air flow to your radiator? Like a few have said if they are not running they may restrict some? Anyways good job on the cover with out removing the header!

 

[Burns]

Im glad it went better than I was thinking it was going to go.


Way to go Jon

 

[Turdle]

Well
I was hoping the plastic fan blade to be more efficient, however it is 2" narrower than the fan shroud opening. I also noticed the fan blade itself is cracking after being in the truck for about a year. Maybe I have spun it a bit too fast???


I cannot find my old metal one. Kinda bummed about that right now.

I know for a fact the metal fan was 19" --this plastic version from a 96 v8 explorer is only 18" diameter-the shroud opening is 20"
I feel this is allowing air to recirculate around the outer edge of the fan without a good draw thru the radiator.

I am going to try to find a suitable fan at the junk yard.

-electric-belt driven-??

I am not sure. I do know this one is not going back in there