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Barack Obama linked 2nd gen. SAS

So let me first start with a quick introduction .. my name is Barack Obama and apparently I'm the junior US Senator from Illinois :thumbsup: . I love slow walks on the beach and bed-side stories. Yeah I'm talking to you big boy:

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Okay now onto the goods...

So recently I've been starting a few threads all relating to my Dana 44 front axle and other tid bits - so I figured it would be best if I just started an SAS thread to pull all of those threads together into one centralize place instead of having them floating about the sea of other threads.

Follow me now as I look back on the threads that I've started:

1) Reading Pinion Depth Number In this thread, I was confused on which number was the pinion depth offset number of my ring and pinion set for the Dana 44. After calling up the good people of Randy's Ring and Pinion, I was told that the numbers on the ring and pinion are no longer used for the pinion depth offset. So I'm like wtf m8!? They did give me a number to start from and so thats what I started with.

2) Ford 9" For Off-Road Use In this thread, I ask the general public what they think about the Ford-9" axle for off-road use. Conclusion, bowties - the GM 14-bolt axle with the stock Detroit locker is a God's send and so thats what I'm going with (it comes with a pinion bearing support - just like the Ford-9").

3) RE SuperFlex Assemby I've never put together a Rubicon Express SuperFlex Joint so in this thread, I ask the public how in the world these things are put togehter. And to be more specific, I was confused how to drive the plastic bushings into the housing. Conclusion - use a press <- faaantastic.

4) Hi-Steer Arms 10-degree Correction In this fabulous discussion, we discuss the ever-popular 10-degree correction that is often placed on High-Steer Arms. In the end, I decided to go with the Sky-Manufacturing arms (although I never updated the thread I dont think - darnit).

5) Dana 44 Ball Joint Sleeve > Replace? Ah finally, the pain in the asymptote. In this thread, which I have yet to resolve really, the problem is that the upper Ball Joint sleeve has frozen itself onto the "C" (aka inner knuckle). The issue has yet to be resolved so no conclusion yet.


Well then, lets dive into some concepts and design ideas.

3link_concept.jpg

As you can see, the front axle is located via a 3-link with a panhard bar. Each link will be mounted to the chassis using Rubicon Express Large SuperFlex Joint. Why go with the RE Joint? Well I was quite impressed at how much JEFE's front axle flexed - so I decided to go with the same joint. I recently asked him whether or not he has broken the 9/16" bolts used to attach the joint to the chassis and he said no - a big :thumbsup: . The link's body is made of a 2"x2" - 0.25" wall square tube - similar to Clayton Off-Road's long arms. Currently, my calculations are aiming for the bottom links to be 38.7" in length and the upper to be 34.2" (figures may change). This gives me an anti-dive of about 105% but I will make the upper link adjustable vertically at the chassis so the anti-dive characteristic can be fine tuned. The bottom links are angled "toe-out" becaue the Dana 44 is a "Wide-Track" axle and the Explorer's chassis is about 2" narrower than the Wide-Track axle's ideal mounting points. The "toe-out" angle however is not severe : about 2" out for the about total 38" length. The two bottom links are attached to the axle via a regular rubber-bushing. The upper "third" link is attached to the axle with the same type of rubber bushing except this one is adjustable - to allow for pinion angle changes.

Onto the front axle itself: As stated, the front "Wide Track" axle is from a Grand Wagoneer (I believe '86). Currently, its geared 5.13 with open differential. I'll throw in a locker in the future after I get this running. The axle was originally running the Wagoneer 6-lug bolt pattern but, because the rear GM 14-bolt is 8-lug, I switched the Dana 44 to 8-lug pattern using parts from a K20 (caliper bracket from a J20). As for the high-steer arms, as stated previously, I decided to go with SkyManufacturing's standard arms with the 10-degree correction angle (arms are on their way from CA).

The steering gear box is out of an IFS Toyota and the entire steering setup will utilize only Chevy TRE's except at the pitman arm.

The front axle will be suspended by Fox 2.5" Nitrogen Air Shocks with 16" of travel.

The rear axle, again as stated before, is a GM 14-bolt with a Detroit locker. Initially, it will be leaf sprung using the Explorer's stock leaf springs (with an AAL and WAR153s). However, I do plan on going 4-link in the near future after the Explorer starts rolling again.

Now onto some newbie pics..


The axle the day it arrived from New Jersey:
axle_pickup.jpg


Before last winter came, I emptied an entire can of Liquid Wrench (and other llubricants) into the differential to soak everything down in preparation for the following spring.
d44_greased.jpg


When spring finally came, the axle was torn down:
d44_housing.jpg


New carrier and new gears. The carrier bearings below are the set-up bearings which have had their inner races grinded down for repetative installation and removal on the carrier while the pinion and ring gear geometry was fine tuned:
d44_carrier.jpg

Spring also brought wheeling weather and I got high-centered on a rock so I decided to SOA the back for fun (the thing on the back is my snowboard and bike rack) and had to get my driveshaft retubed because it popped in half:
soa_backshot.jpg


The caliper brakets from a J20 after sand blasting and a coat of epoxy paint:
d44_caliperbracket_painted.jpg


Flat-top knuckles from a J10 masked off and ready for some epoxy paint:
d44_knuckle_ready_for_paint.jpg


Inner "C"s on the front axle sliced from the axle tubes (and temporarily knocked out about .125" for easier rotation) to set proper caster angle:
inner_c_sliced.jpg


Chevy K20 8-lug rotors .. "Oh my Mr. Obama, what big rotors you have. Why yes Sally, I do have big rotors." :
d44_rotor.jpg


Chevy K20 calipers:
d44_caliper.jpg


And finally for now, the RE SuperFlex joints:
re_joint.jpg


As for tires, right now I have a set of 36" TSL-SX's I bought for cheap from a local individual.


So what's in the future? Well the rest of the link parts are on their way - as well as the high steer arms. The Fox shocks will be purchased in about 2 weeks and the 14-bolt axle will be picked up about 3 weeks to a month after that. The rear axle is the least of my worries so that's the last thing on this Senator's mind.
 



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What year Ford is the D60 out of? Obviously a pre93 because it's a kingpin axle.
 



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1986 f350 :)
 






410 or 355?
 






No idea, I didnt even bother asking what exactly the ratio was because I'm regearing it anyway. I'll count it once I have the gears removed -- but I'm still busy working on my axle stand :D
 






if its 410 you uhh... wanna maybe come up with a price for me??:)
 






If its a 4.10, its still worth nothing to me so pay the shipping and its yours.
 






dude ur awsome...but its prob 3.55 hahaha no really thanks man..
 






Turns out I didn't just break a U-joint during the last RC run, but also the axle shaft -- dandy :D

axleshaft_03.jpg
 












That makes it two since the SAS.
I'm going to the junk yard sometime this weekend or sometime during the week -- I remember seeing I think two Wagoneers last time.
 






Finally got the D60 out of the van today, onto the axle stand, and disassembled. This axle is so heavy fully dressed that it collapsed one of the caster wheels on my axle stand. I hope to have the housing to the machine shop for a hot-tank process sometime this week and if its cheap enough, maybe media blast the center section.

No pics cauz I don't have a digital camera since I broke my last one :(.
And Mud Bug 94, sorry you were dead on, the ring and pinion set is 3.53 ratio :(

Oh and as for the D44, its back and running again after receiving an axle shaft from one of the IFSJA guys.
 






And if the D60 does'nt do the job for ya then what?
 






And if the D60 does'nt do the job for ya then what?
Then I'm going to drive my Explorer into the Atlantic Ocean and move to Paris, where I will open a pastry shop in some tiny old town with cobblestone streets so narrow you can't even drive a car through it -- the good [simple] life :D
 






Then I'm going to drive my Explorer into the Atlantic Ocean and move to Paris, where I will open a pastry shop in some tiny old town with cobblestone streets so narrow you can't even drive a car through it -- the good [simple] life :D


or you could just learn to not drive like a redneck...it works for the rest of us.

:D
 






or you could just learn to not drive like a redneck...it works for the rest of us.
Hey! I take offense to that :p:

But I think once the D60's outers are upgraded to 35 spline, it should be a lot harder to break this axle.

And I've been debating full-chromos because the axle needs to be narrowed down anyways -- cauz its 69" wms-wms and I want to bring that down to maybe 64" or 65" (the 14-bolt is 63"). And there is no stock D60 axle shaft out there that is 4" or 5" shorter, so the only option is to go custom chromos or have the current passenger inner shaft cut and resplined (Currie I think does this for around $100 but there are other shops out there that can do it for around $60).

But what this D60 also allows me to do is run 38"s or 40"s which will finally get that boat anchor we call "14-bolt" up away from the rocks (really should shave that axle housing sometime).
 






that's only 2.5" per side narrower... I'd run it wide up front and take all the extra money in your pocket from having custom shafts built to buy that grille for your truck you have been saving up for.

I don't think when you're running 40s at 5 lbs on an explorer somebody's going to say, gee is that front wheel 2.5" wider than the rear?
 






Hehe I can't run a 69" wms-wms axle with the wheel/tire combo I have now -- the wheels only have 2.5" backspacing. It would be SUPER wide and the vehicle would never fit between trees and boulders. That and it would probably fall off of the trailer (it already overhangs a few inches per side).

But custom chromos aren't that expensive. CompleteOffRoad (whom I've ordered from many times) offers D60 axle shafts of any length, 35 spline for both inner and outer, for only $550
http://completeoffroad.com/wsm/i-1387_4340_axle_kit_dana_60_most_applications_35_spline.html

Which isnt too bad considering I really need 35 spline outers so the alternative would be:
- cutting resplining: $60-$100
- dana 60/70 35 spline outters: $110-130 each so x2 = at least $220 for a pair

And as for the grille, its sitting in the garage -- never to find its way on this Explorer again :p:
 






dude, guys run 42's on stock 60's with almost no problems, cromo 60 shafts get you into 47 territory.
And if your going to hot tank it, and blast the center section why dont you just get it all blasted?
 






dude, guys run 42's on stock 60's with almost no problems, cromo 60 shafts get you into 47 territory.
So thats a money-back guarantee from sn0 that I will never break axle shafts again -- faaantastic :D

And if your going to hot tank it, and blast the center section why dont you just get it all blasted?
I dunno cauz I have no idea what blasting costs. The machine shop I usually go to charges $25-$30 for the tank process, I'll see what blasting costs sometime.
 



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