HHO: Is it alchemy? Or will it improve gas mileage on a ’99 4.0 SOHC Explorer?

[Charlie]

Subscribing...this is interesting..

 

[shortstack]

your the man "aldive" waiting for the results

 

[lycan91]

As reported earlier, my idle is rock stable with the HHO set up running.

I got to thinking, heck, the idle was rock stable without the HHO due to the PCM modifications on this particular tune.

I decided to load the stock PCM tune and see how the idle was with and without the HHO running.

The idle was somewhat crummy with the stock tune, yet when the HHO was running, the idle was rock stable.

so with that in mind, do you think you will run it with your stock setting and HHO and with your your current PCM tune and the HHO for testing purposes i think doing both would give you a good idea of what your looking at for gains. but you probably already consisdered this

 

[aldive]

so with that in mind, do you think you will run it with your stock setting and HHO and with your your current PCM tune and the HHO for testing purposes i think doing both would give you a good idea of what your looking at for gains. but you probably already consisdered this

Once everything is up and running and I have baseline data, I shall indeed test HHO with various PCM tunes.

Further, I plan to develop a special PCM tune designed for HHO use.

 

[lycan91]

awsome. special PCM? very nice that wont happen until after the testing and all that, correct?

 

[iggy1718]

I didnt use any electrolite for the first test just to see if it would even work and be stable. I also measured the amps and was drawing about 15amps. I dont know how to regulate how many amps teh system will flow. I think I read somewhere that the plate spacing will draw more amps if teh plates are closer together which could me my problem.

I had my outlet tube going into the stock air box before the MAF and couldnt get a good feel on exactly where i should inject the HHO into the engine. Would it be better if the MAF didnt read any extra oxygen?

 

[seth247]

well the maf reads airflow only not oxygen content.

But as I understand it the wire can heat to 1000 degrees centegrade at times and therefor would be a bad idea to run flamable gas across it. Idk.

 

[btimm86]

1000 degrees C is as hot as lava.

 

[Mickelsons]

Subscribing

 

[Gator Jeff]

1000 degrees C is as hot as lava.

Me thinks there might be a decimel point missing :scratch:

 

[Paraphoe]

Man, if this thing works even a little (and I pray it does), it's is going to set off a mass Explorer4x4.com HHO frenzy.

 

[manaen]

Man, if this thing works even a little (and I pray it does), it's is going to set off a mass Explorer4x4.com HHO frenzy.

HAH maybe they should start a new domain ExplorerHHO.com

 

[Blacksheep Josh]

HAH maybe they should start a new domain ExplorerHHO.com

yayuh!!! lol

 

[wyochimneysweep]

how about going to a ported vacuum soucre so as load increases the vacuum to pull in hho would increase. granted you would probably have to put in a one way check vavle in the hho gen of you dont pull a vacuum on the gen

 

[aldive]

how about going to a ported vacuum soucre so as load increases the vacuum to pull in hho would increase. granted you would probably have to put in a one way check vavle in the hho gen of you dont pull a vacuum on the gen

Please elaborate.

 

[seth247]

LOL.

Thats correct 1000 degrees centigrade. Thats what I read in glacierice's sticky thread in the ECU forum. I can't vouch to the accuracy of that info.

But I now they run at over 200 degrees during normal engine operation and heat up alot after engine shutdown to boil off any contaminants.

The maf opperates by heating the element to past boiling temp and then tracks the amperage required to keep it that hot. Thus more airflow means more current to keep the element(s) heated.

 

[joefnh]

Can a HHO system help mileage? I would say yes

Recent data from a 354 mile trip today shows that my average MPG went up 1.22 MPG as compared to the last 5 fill ups. A total of 14.33 gallons consumed over a distance of 354 miles highway driving = 24.7 MPG (23.48 MPG current average); with the AC on the whole time.

My current cell is meant as a concept version only and consist of 1 coaxial cell, 8" in length, made of 316L stainless steel

I intend on scaling up this version to a total of 6 cells, built in a circular pattern.

Currently this version can produce 3.6 cubic feet per minute (CFM) using a PWM circuit running at ~ 12kHz, 95Volts @ 3.1 amps.

I have tried to upload images from 2 different computers of this unit but have been unable to, each time I try to use the manage attachments function the connection times out and is reset.



Al keep up the good work.

--Joe

 

[aldive]

Joe, good deal my friend. Keep it up.

E mail me ( al@fdu.com ) the pics and I will upload for you

 

[joefnh]

Thanks Al I just sent them to you

Thanks

--Joe

 

[aldive]

Here are Joe's pictures ....