supercharged 5.0 true fire 98 explorer sport

vroomzoomboom · August 30, 2020

just went out and started it. ran it for about a min and shut it down.
valve cover gasket leak now......ugh
dont know if the antifreeze leak is fixed for sure or not because it wasnt ran long enough.

Dono · August 30, 2020

And, in to the frustrating part of the build. :-(

vroomzoomboom · August 30, 2020

Dono said:
And, in to the frustrating part of the build. :-(

that part will be in your hands lol

ahodges · August 31, 2020

Tim, for the record, I am running 2 PCV valves on mine since there is a spot for one on the factory intake at the rear of the engine. Both of those are hooked into the vacuum port between the throttle body and the supercharger, then I have the one from the oil fill hooked into the intake before the throttle body. The way you have it set up now should work great.

vroomzoomboom · August 31, 2020

i wished i had that factory spot still. would make things so much easier.

so for my clarification (and probably due to inhaling more brake clean then i want to admit when changing to this set up *twitch twitch*) anything before the throttle body blade is "fresh air" and anything past the blade is "vacuum" correct?
just waiting for the parts store to get the valve cover gaskets. want to have it running like it should today and get a data log of to don so i can start annoying the neighbourhood. after all, they have had nothing but quiet all summer. cant let them get used to that now, can i

donalds · August 31, 2020

vroomzoomboom said:
) anything before the throttle body blade is "fresh air" and anything past the blade is "vacuum" correct?

Yep

vroomzoomboom said:
get a data log of to don so i can start annoying the neighbourhood. after all, they have had nothing but quiet all summer. cant let them get used to that now, can i

Nope lol

vroomzoomboom · September 1, 2020

so

got her all together.....everything. started up, NO LEAKS!!!! i also didnt feel comfortable not having a overflow for it as well, so i was able to cobble a couple of brass fittings and tied it into the rad overflow as well. was worried if it didnt have one in it, it would have found its weakest point at a moment that wasnt exactly convent to me either (like 1am a hour from home more then likely). i also did as everyone said on how to PROPERLY route the PVC as well. had it idling in total for about 30 mins., longest time 10 mins. i think i have all the air out of both innercooler and rad now as well. will check it in the morning.
was also able to kick the dust off the laptop and fire a datalog to don. thats when it happen. he told me both banks are way out. number 2 looked fine, but number one looked like one cylinder wasnt firing. when he told me that, i thought back to when i pulled everything apart. number 4 looked like it inhaled oil from when it was gulping oil into the blower. dumb me never checked the plugs out, and i think it may have fowled one or more plugs.
i was also telling don that this thing almost seemed like it wanted to suck another 100 bucks out of me at any cost. first one, the valve cover gaskets. bought new felpros today. $75. after getting home found some old ones that i think i had on the 302 that i saved for some reason, so the new ones can go back. second hit was the laptop. havent ran it for years and was doing funny things. i worked threw them as well and wont need a new one thank god because thats all i used it for is logging. lastly one reason why i didnt change plugs was i figured they were only 2 years old with low mileage on them. even though i thought one might be fowled, i figured i would come back to life. datalog says otherwise. i had 2 packs of plugs, but could only find one, which ment that i would have to buy four of them tomorrow. after looking around my shed, i found the other pack.
take that evil......just dont find new ideas tomorrow.

i almost forgot what this thing looked like all together.

so much for being inconspicuous about the innercooler lol.
however, after all the stuff i added and changed, i found my one little booboo

stupid fog light bucket! its resting right up against the hose. this is another reason why i went to stainless vs. rubber hose. hopefully they will get along and not battle to the death. i really dont want to cut the bucket off for that light, because if i do, that means both have to go.
oh, also for what ever reason, the headlights wont fire!!!! the only thing i did to them was unplug them when i took the header panel off, and i have power going to the ballasts, and even changing them out did nothing. oh well, i would have to say with those problems, if thats all i have with as much stuff that i changed, i would say i am doing more then good.

ahodges · September 1, 2020

A trick we use at work for hoses that rub is to get a section of heavy rubber hose such as hydraulic suction hose, split it and wrap the hose you need to protect with it. Then hold it on with zip ties. I had to do that with my transmission lines. For that sized line you may be able to use heater core hose.

Great progress. I can't wait to see what happens after tuning.

410Fortune · September 1, 2020

check grounds on the headlight ballasts?

Still running HID's??? LMFAO
Dude that truck is just stunning..........seriously one wicked creation you have there
drool drool
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vroomzoomboom · September 1, 2020

ahodges said:
A trick we use at work for hoses that rub is to get a section of heavy rubber hose such as hydraulic suction hose, split it and wrap the hose you need to protect with it. Then hold it on with zip ties. I had to do that with my transmission lines. For that sized line you may be able to use heater core hose.

Great progress. I can't wait to see what happens after tuning.

i know the way the bumper sits right now its a little low and over to one side because if that. sooner or later (the bodyman in me says sooner) this will drive me nuts and i will end up pulling the bumper off and shaving the bucket for the fog light.

410Fortune said:
check grounds on the headlight ballasts?

Still running HID's??? LMFAO
Dude that truck is just stunning..........seriously one wicked creation you have there
drool drool
\

thanks, its been a long road with this thing. then again the places i have traveled to and the people i have met, some people would look at you funny when you say a vehicle can change your life for the better but i can say it has. its also a way of therapy as well.
yes, still using HID's in it but with projectors from a range rover/bmw m3. i would put LED's in it, but i dont have enough room on the back side for the heat sinks and would probably melt something. even more now that the battery is tucked up to the rad cradle.
was thinking ground because when i checked for power, coming out of the ballast, the test light is bright on one side, but lighting dim on the other so something isnt right there.

Turdle · September 1, 2020

Well, it sure is good to see everything put back in it's place. I've noticed "put together" is the best storage spot for all the pieces. Funny how that works.

Looks good Tim. You need to go for a ride quick, snow is coming.

vroomzoomboom · September 1, 2020

Turdle said:
Well, it sure is good to see everything put back in it's place. I've noticed "put together" is the best storage spot for all the pieces. Funny how that works.

Looks good Tim. You need to go for a ride quick, snow is coming.

and the space it free's up i tell ya! incredible!
NEVER EVER say the "S" word!!!!!!

EVAR!

put new plugs in this morning. ikd, i think the old ones still have a mile or two left in them.....at the most.

guess thats what happens when you feed them oil for five mins. did a log and sent it to don. he said it was much better.and i also finally got to listen to some a7x while letting it idle.
so did the neighbours.

vroomzoomboom · September 3, 2020

don gave me the thumbs up to take it for a spin! after 2 months the day came!
did a 2nd gear roll to 3000rpms and shot of the log to him. he looked it over made some changes. he said you could probably do a wot if you watch your wideband or if you want do a roll to 4 or 5000rpm. i figured just to play it safe do a 5000rpm roll if i was brave enough.
after i was finished went for a small rip around town. in the back of my mind the full pull was itching to come out. well, not a full pull, but a few bangs of the throttle to see what it had. the results?
disapointment.
gave it a whack, motor came up then fell on its face. it is only making 4lbs of boost!?!?!? you can hear it in the supercharger and motor that its starving for more. i am hoping that the vacuum line i used to go to the bleed off valve or what ever you call it is not fully closing. in the morning i am going to see if i can disconnect it from the vacuum line and pin it shut to see what it will do. if i get more boost out of it, i found the problem. if i dont, i have a bad feeling it will have to come apart again which is what i really dont want to do.
oh, i did get one of my hids to fire. i forgot a ground wire somehow. will have to check the other one on the weekend because its infornt of the battery box which is also a pita to remove......
if anyone reading this also has ideas about the boost problem chime in. i am also thinking the vacuum line going to it may be a little on the small side as well. it is also hooked to the fpr, and boost gauge. the same way as it was on the m112 and sees both vacuum and boost

ahodges · September 3, 2020

As long as the vacuum hose you used is strong enough (not washer fluid hose), then i would think it is fine. Remind me, are those bleed valves normally open or closed? Does vacuum open or close them?

vroomzoomboom · September 3, 2020

its about the size of washer fluid hose. i think it does both

vroomzoomboom · September 3, 2020

on the bleed off valve, there are two ports. one is a vent, the other controls the valve moment. when you hook your vacuum line up to the vent side, you get 4lbs of boost. however, when hooked up correctly, you get 10! had don make a few more adjustments to the tune, then went for a drive. stated to screw around in town a little bit as well. 1/4 to maybe, maybe haft throttle it was making 5lbs of boost. then went on the highway to do a WOT log in second gear. when i hammered it, nothing but wheel spin and lots. about 3 stripes on the road long....starting in second. that and being a passenger and being a driver you normally get 2 different feelings. most have told me they can feel themselves being pushed in the seat, but i never can. well, this time, i can feel my shoulders going further and further back into the seat. hell, the exhaust even sounds louder! for the first time owning this thing, i am almost afraid to put it in 4x4 and send it.
now granted i havent drove this thing for a few months, its cool out right now (15C or around 60F) but good crap. at a roll it lights them in second, and i swore i heard the tires scrub going into 3rd on the highway at full song!

so......todays post is sponsored by depends.
depends, cause one ride in this thing, and you'll **** your pants!

gmanpaint · September 3, 2020

Time for a chase vehicle with video!
Congrats Tim!

ahodges · September 3, 2020

Nice job Tim!

Dono · September 3, 2020

Props to Tim on the intercooler and heat exchanger setup.

Air Charge Temps are 120 at wot. We had no way to measure what intake temps were post blower with the old setup, but I can tell you it was way higher than that.
This will obviously add to more wheel spin issues as I am able to adjust timing now that we have more knock resistance.

A problem is that its hard to get a good solid data log to tune from when the wheels start spinning like that. Apparently there is a bit of a bog in 1st when Tim nails it, and I sure hope I can see where the issue is.
We have had 2 tune revisions so far (One with the boost solenoid working).

Its exciting to see the uncountable hours of planning and execution come together (Not to mention the $ that I don't even want to know about).

Congratulations Tim!

vroomzoomboom · September 4, 2020

and thanks again don for doing the tune. comes in pretty handy when the guy is doing it for me right over the phone while i wait lol
so yea, if it gets faster, i thank don.........and if i yard sale it, i thank don lol, just kidding.
if is spins again in the morning, i guess i will have to put it in 4x4. nice thing is i have 2 front diffs under the bench in the shed. hopefully they will stay there.

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