supercharged 5.0 true fire 98 explorer sport

Turdle · July 30, 2023

Thread too long to sell now.

It's just being evil. Not like the TV show

vroomzoomboom · July 30, 2023

Dono said:
Lol....I seem to remember I tried the 'throw money at it till it works'.

i also seem to remember i have your old motor in evil.....i wonder if your luck is rubbing off on me now......

410Fortune said:
No he sold a different truck not his soul crushing, wallet emptying consume all the time available so you never have a life again sport

We need this thing to run!!

fixed it for you jamie.

Turdle said:
Thread too long to sell now.

It's just being evil. Not like the TV show

the problem with a long thread is that you can look back and see what kind of a pita it has been...

while i was driving today to look at another truck to flip i started to think if i ever checked over the wires coming out of the ecu going to the plug, then from the plug to the coil driver. i will have to look at that tomorrow

vroomzoomboom · August 8, 2023

well what feels like eternity plus a day, i was able to get my hands on my friends smoke tester. i tried making one using a soldiering iron, a jar and a suction pump, but it didnt make enough smoke. anyhow, hooked everything up to the truck, and ran it into the line used for the brake booster. could see a ton of smoke but couldnt narrow it down. or i should say had a funning feeling i knew where it was coming but didnt want to believe it, so i stopped the smoke, but continued to pump air into the motor and shot some soapy water in one spot in particular. well, i got my answer.

that there is pretty much all of bank 2 leaking from the intake gasket. so now i have to figure how and why. i've been using fel-pro MS90361 set. i have a different set laying around, they are more of a paper gasket and not like the crush metallic fel-pro ones. also it was torqued to 25-27 ft/lbs. i think the first problem is the washers started to bend. i would love to change to a different bolt (i do not reuse them if i have to take the intake off, i toss them buy new ones, and no they are not arp or anything fancy like that) but i have torque them down with the fuel rail on. i am however going to see if i can take the rail off to tighten them now. theres not a lot of room to work with here.
the intake is already off as well as the mount, block is cleaned, same with the mount and intake. hopefully tomorrow sometime after work i can once again put it back together.

donalds · August 8, 2023

That's good progress there

CDW6212R · August 8, 2023

Try to check the intake surfaces with a good straight edge to be sure it's all true.

I know RTV has become something people avoid using with intake gaskets, but that used to be the primary sealing agent for all intakes and gaskets available. If the RTV can be used judiciously(not too much), it is an excellent sealant for all imperfections, and the movement of the parts when assembled. I haven't installed an intake in over 20 years, but I never did it once without a full covering of RTV.

vroomzoomboom · August 8, 2023

CDW6212R said:
Try to check the intake surfaces with a good straight edge to be sure it's all true.

I know RTV has become something people avoid using with intake gaskets, but that used to be the primary sealing agent for all intakes and gaskets available. If the RTV can be used judiciously(not too much), it is an excellent sealant for all imperfections, and the movement of the parts when assembled. I haven't installed an intake in over 20 years, but I never did it once without a full covering of RTV.

yea.....not my first rodeo.

410Fortune · August 9, 2023

Maybe try a gasket that’s not the felpro and sandwich it with rtv, meaning the felpro lower intake is the soft carbon type maybe your intake needs a traditional paper/rubber style? U dunno

That custom intake must not be perfectly flat! At least you are finding issues! Battle on
Some of these trucks just fight us the whole way but we still win the war

vroomzoomboom · August 9, 2023

410Fortune said:
Maybe try a gasket that’s not the felpro and sandwich it with rtv, meaning the felpro lower intake is the soft carbon type maybe your intake needs a traditional paper/rubber style? U dunno

That custom intake must not be perfectly flat! At least you are finding issues! Battle on
Some of these trucks just fight us the whole way but we still win the war

that was one of my first thoughts. i am going to seal the water ports with rtv, but i am going to (or in the process) of using a spray on adhesive. it will be pure hell to clean off if i have to take it apart again however. the lower part i would like to say is flat, but i know the bottom of the mount is not. it did get warped on one of the back corners when it was welded together.
i put the lower on the motor and did find it wants to shift to one side or another when its laying dry. i am going to have to watch that when it goes back together. i am also going to use a different intake gasket this time.

thats the gasket number. where it came from or when i have no idea lol. it may have come with don's truck and parts when i bought it from him. this one is a paper style gasket, not like the fel pro. i am also using this,

you DONT want to get this on your fingers or skin. might be up there with herculiner (for those that dont know do a search lol). you can probably lift wrenches with your finger tips if you get it on them. not sure if i can do this or not but i did. i used that stuff and put a light coat of rtv around the water passages. that gasket is as we speak on the lower intake that i lightly bolted to the motor for it to set up over night. i am still trying to decide if i want to use the alan head bolts, or regular bolts this time as well. the problem with regular bolts is the fuel rails have to come off to put them in. the problem with that is, i use them to put the blower and mount on the motor (they act as handles, and work quite well lol). then bolting them back on while on the motor isnt zero fun to. i will have that to keep me awake tonight so i can decide tomorrow i guess.

donalds · August 10, 2023

That is some strong stuff I've used it
Best part is it will never fully dry
I'm excited for burnouts

410Fortune · August 10, 2023

I’m not sure the spray sealant will fill the gap? I would think you need a thicker layer of rtv to fill a gap. the gasket won’t touch the block and the intake because they are not flat.. the gasket adhesive is fantastic for keeping the gaskets in place and sealed up but not the greatest for filling imperfections in the metal or in your case a large gap! I would still use some permatex

CDW6212R · August 10, 2023

That spray a gasket is the same as the old one called Spray Tack, I've used it many times for water pump gaskets and the thermostat gasket. It is great for holding gaskets, and making the install easier(less messy), but it is sticky.

The RTV is the best for any imperfections to fill, small and big gaps, but it has to be evenly put on and gently crushed into place, then left to set. You can use RTV and delay the final torquing by just snugging the bolts to maintain more thickness of the RTV. Then tighten it up after a few hours, the trick is to get the wet RTV to touch all of the sealing surfaces first. That gives it more sealing material in the gap, like doing the intake end rails.

vroomzoomboom · September 2, 2023

so here is the monthly update.

i was able to squeeze regular bolts in to tighten the intake down and not the Allen headed bolts. the problem i was having with them was i had to use a ball head socket key to tighten them, and what would happen was because most of them had to be tighten on a angle, the socket would start to skip then strip the head and not fully torqueing down. i grown a socket down and can just fit it between the rail and the bolt. next looking at the adaptors for the injectors i didnt really trust them. they looked really cheep. i ordered a holley ev6 harness. it came today. i had also looked into where james left off in trying to make it run (well, i should say he did have it running). i noticed something funny, when you set your ignition up in these holley systems, you need to tell the ecm where the crank sensor is to the reluctor wheel. on mine (and more then likely all explorers) it will be on the 5th tooth. he had is set at the 10th tooth. it would run, but horrible. i set it to the 5th one. it wont run, but it wants to real bad when you try starting it, so i am going to leave it there for now. the last of the big news is........i broke down and hired a remote tuner. truthfully i am not a big fan of remote tuning but i trust no shop anywhere near me to take it to. on friday, marty ochs from mo's speed shop in dallas, ga is going to be handling the tuning and hopefully get evil running so i can at least take it out on one cruise night before it snows.

Dono · September 4, 2023

Marty and Mo's has a great reputation. I dodn't know they are a holley shop also. Thats great news!

ahodges · September 5, 2023

Keep at it Tim; you'll get it!

vroomzoomboom · September 5, 2023

ahodges said:
Keep at it Tim; you'll get it!

and if i dont, lucky for me that selkirk has a mental hospital, so seeking residency shouldnt be a problem *twitch twitch*

vroomzoomboom · September 9, 2023

well today tuning started......and within 10 mins it ended. map not reading.

i hate this thing.

410Fortune · September 9, 2023

Isn’t this a good thing? Now you know where to look! Map wiring from Holley to your aftermarket map sensor

Dono · September 9, 2023

That would have to be a holley ecu issue, correct?

vroomzoomboom · September 9, 2023

410Fortune said:
Isn’t this a good thing? Now you know where to look! Map wiring from Holley to your aftermarket map sensor

Dono said:
That would have to be a holley ecu issue, correct?

i have to look at the connector going into the sensor. i know that was one of the first ones i did and probably didnt do it well. when i was on the phone with them, i wiggled the end a couple of times and it would read, then go dead. read then go dead. the fun part will be trying to pull that connector out so i can look at it. its buried at the back of the motor, under the supercharger.

410Fortune · September 9, 2023

Any way to use the internal map just to get it running?

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