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[sn0border88]

the d44 does, the 9" dosent I believe.

 

[zainyD]

the d44 does, the 9" dosent I believe.

That is correct. The D44 uses a different carrier for 3.92 and numerically higher gears(4.10, 4.56, 4.88, etc). The 9" uses the same for all gears.

 

[jrgaylor]

I have been talking with Jim at Cage offroad about their radius arms. The Duff and Cage arms look the same but the cage arms have several improvements in construction and material and Jim is the original designer of the arms.
They are making new frame brackets for their arms to fit rigs that have a channel frames like our explorers and full size F150/Broncos. So now we won't have to modify the frame brackets that where meant to be used on a early Bronco that was a boxed frame rig
These new brackets should be available this Monday, as soon as they are available I am going to order a set for my explorer

The arms and frame brackets will come together as a kit, the new frame brackets are being made of 5/16" instead of 1/4" and will fit the frame of Explorer, the new brackets should be ready by end of the week. I will keep you posted

 

['97 V8]

The arms and frame brackets will come together as a kit, the new frame brackets are being made of 5/16" instead of 1/4" and will fit the frame of Explorer, the new brackets should be ready by end of the week. I will keep you posted

Sweet.

 

[lifeguard379]

colindo94 thanks for asking about the Carrier. i didn't think there was a dif, but now i know .

 

[Mud Bug 94]

just soits been said...dana 60 has two carriers...and thick and thin gear sets...

 

[SuperEx91]

2 things...
first, what is the differecne between the two carriers? i ran into the same comment. i have 4.88's for my d44 and was planning on using the factory carrier but was told not too.

second, off subject. i want to keep updated about this attica run 97 V8 and mynameisaric are talking about. i live in perrysburg, ohio(1 hr north of lima) and hope to have my sas done for the spring jamboree next month.

 

[mynameisaric]

well i know i wont be done next month, but i will keep you informed on the run when it happens. the more the merrier.

 

[SuperEx91]

thanks. you ought to try going to the jambo. i went last year. it was crazy. i am hoping to get a deal on some tires. national tire and wheel takes a semi full of tires and sells them for decent price. cheaper than the normal magazine prices anyway. if i already have my tires by then, i plan on looking for a winch.

 

['97 V8]

I'll be at the jambo as well. I'm hoping to get a sick deal on tires and what not.

 

[colindo94]

I did more researce and found that we do need new carriers. For the 44 there are two different carriers. Numerically lower then 3.93 and Numerically higher then 3.93. SO the stock one is the lower then 3.93 gears and the one we need for those of use running 4.88, 5.13 we need the numerically higher then 3.93 carrier. I have found the same info for the 8.8 so I will be buying new carriers for both axles.

 

[colindo94]

now that I started looking for 8.8 cases I can only find one sized case. So does anyone know if I need to get a different sized case for the 5.13 gears that I am running for my full width 8.8 rear end? I need input asap so I can order the parts.

 

[zainyD]

You don't need a different case for the 8.8. My 8.8 had stock 3.55 gears and I switched to 5.13's using the same carrier.

 

[mynameisaric]

they make gears that work with the lower carriers if i'm not mistaken. i know for the d60 they offer the 5.13 and 5.38 for "4.10 and numerically higher" and "4.10 and numerically lower" i am guessing it works the same for the dana44 since they are pretty similar and have equal aftermarket support.

 

[james t]

As far as i know, you can get "thick" gears that will allow you to run say 4:56's on a 3-series carrier for a low pinion D44, but not for a high pinion.

 

[95exploderboy]

I have never seen or heard of a carrier break for the 8.8. The only thing you will need is a notched cross shaft for the spiders or you might need to do some grinding on the gears to get the shaft to fit.

If your gear guy keeps insisting on needing a new carrier for the 8.8, you may want to find someone who knows the 8.8 better.

 

[redranger4.0]

All the ford axles do not use a carrier break. 8.8 9" sterling

 

[Mud Bug 94]

sweet!?!?

 

[colindo94]

SAS is underway

Alright my plan changed a little so I will write up everything that I plan to do. I change my mind a lot so none of this is set in stone, but you get the idea.

Dana 44 from a 67 F-150
-5.13 yukon gears/master install kit, bigger carrier
-lockright
-warn primium hubs
-timkin wheel bearings
-stock axle shafts with new spicer u joints for now
-new hub and rotor assembly and spindle.
-Stock f-150 calipers
-ford explorer skyjaker extended brake lines
-stock 76-79 f-150 tie rod
-stock 91-94 ford explorer drag link
-superlift adjustable track bar
-stock f-150 track bar bracket
-wildhorse 5.5" coils
-energy suspension 7* axel wedge bushings
-new balljoints from broncograveyard
-stock f-150/bronco lower coil seats and retainers
-stock f-150/bronco coil towers
-f-250 shock towers
-bilstien 5100 14" travel shocks?

Full width 8.8 from a 88 fullsize bronco
-5.13 yukon gears/master install kit, stock carrier
-lockright
-notched crosspin???Not sure if I need the notched crosspin for the lockright
-stock axelshafts for now
-new drums,shoes
-ford explorer skyjacker ext. brakeline
-new spring perch, u bolts, shock mount kit for a 8.8 install on a XJ?
-add a leaf
-custom shackles
-timkin axle bearings

Wheels and tires
-36x12.5 TSL Radials
-15x10 steel rock crawlers

If any sees a problem with my plan please speek up.


Heres some pics of progress
I got most everything painted and apart. I'm waiting on the dana 44 carrier to get the gears and lockers installed. I plan to start taking the front end off the explorer this weekend.

 

[JTX]

Any way you could possibly measure the distance from the upper ball joint to the other upper ball joint? Trying to get an estimate on how much DOM tubing i need to buy for my steering.


Thanks