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Jakee's 4.0 SOHC Build up discussion and motivation thread

After Camber adjusters, Body bushings, rear sway bar, and brakes are complete, I'll be posting baseline dyno numbers. First things first. Must be safe!


EDIT (11-6-2007)

Let me save you some time by posting the summary to this thread. The thread is filled with a bunch of off topic ramblings. Read on if you want but be warned.

Summary to this thread....

I'm going to attempt to close this thread because the N/A goal is coming to an end. I really lost interest in the N/A goal a few months back, and It just doesn't make sense (from a $/HP perspective) to buy anymore bolt-ons when the force feed options are available for us 4.0 SOHC guys. I would rather save the money to buy a turbo than to keep spending big bucks for little gains. And so, this is what I did, and these are my opinions on how the mod worked out.

The first thing was the intake. I can remember going around in circles trying to figure out which one to buy. The Volant? no, the K&N....wait a minute, the MAC is cheaper? Anyways, I finally decided on the MAC intake because of the cost. All and all, an intake is an intake. You're not going to see a big huge difference between any of them, but I still feel the best out there is the Volant. I believe in a "Closed" intake. In other words; I don't like the idea of sucking hot engine air thru an open filter under the hood. That's just me and the difference between a "Closed" intake and an "Open" is very small. I did, however, see a gain from customizing the MAC intake by closing in the air filter with a trash can....Yes, you heard me right, a freaking trash can that I cut to fit in the engine bay. It worked good and people usually don't notice what it is. They just think it looks cool. Anyways, I also replaced the MAC filter with a Volant filter; cut a 3-1/2" hole thru the fender and placed a Volant filter thru it. No water can get to it, well....not from this area....I then added spectra hoses from the front of the vehicle where the fog lights were for a "Ram air" attempt. I had a couple of aluminum parts machined for a clean install. That was it for the intake.

Next, I believe I ordered the 73MM C&L from hensonperfromance. This housing uses the same electronics but is just a bit bigger than the stock plastic MAF housing. The gain was small, but was worth it. I believe I've found dyno's of a 7 RWHP gain? Not sure, but there is a gain there.

The TB was the next thing. I purchased a 4.6 TB from KBX performance because I heard a guy named James had discovered it to work with the 4.0 SOHC. I later fooled around and half shafted it. Basically, what that does is removes half the rod that the butterfly is attached too. Do a search on "half shafting a TB" or something like that to get more details. I believe this mod really doesn't give big HP; more throttle response than anything but it's worth it.

When I had the TB off, I noticed this big tube right in the way of the airflow. The tube is the EGR valve and the reason it's sticking in there is to evenly vent exhaust gases back in the intake. Do not remove the EGR valve; it actually helps you. What I did was remove the part that's in the way of the air-flow. I have no idea if this helped me, but It felt like it did. The only ill effect I can think of is maybe one side of the engine is getting more EGR flow; however, I haven't seen traces of this on the spark plugs so I believe it's good.

Now for the exhaust....yeah, it's hard to get a 4.0 SOHC to sound good. In fact, I think mine still sounds pretty bad. I started off with the Gibson Cat back and if your looking for a "Slightly louder than stock" exhaust, then this is the one for you. The gain was good and I liked the sound but I wasn't satisfied. I felt there might be just a little more power I could unleash so I tried a higher flow muffler; a magna-flow. I started off by having a custom Y-pipe made. It has 2-1/4" primaries that y's into a 3" single exhaust. The pipes run back a little ways and goes into a 3" magnaflow cat, then into a 2-1/2" magnaflow muffler, and dumps right before the rear axle. The flow is there but the sound.....I hate it.

I also added JBA stainless headers. I have to say that headers are very expensive for the 4.0 SOHC but there is gain, trust me. If your looking for EVERYTHING you can from the engine, add headers to it later on down the road.

Next is under-drive pulleys....This is one of the better mods in my opinion. The under-drive crank pulley works by slowing down the serpentine belt, which in return, slows down all the accessories running off the belt. The result is more power to your back tires. The only problem I had was it slows the alternator down too much. The fix is an overdrive alt pulley and I added one to speed the alt back up. Problem solved. I'm also running a underdrive water pump pulley with no problems what so ever.

Another good mod is a electric fan. I went with the flex-a-lite 180 and haven't had a problem yet. Very good quality pc.

The best mod, in my opinion, is a tuner. I went with a SCT XCAL II that I picked up from hensonperformance. I think this changed my truck the most and I'm very pleased.

I believe this about sums it up. Every pc of info I just typed here is on the net, and most is right here in this forum, but I wanted to compile some of it for reference purposes....

I made a goal at the begining of this thread, but I'm really not interested anymore. It doesn't make a hill of beans to have high dyno numbers, but it is nice. The only dyno I had sucked; I made 189 to the rear wheels. I'm thinking I'm a bit higher than that but I'm not worried about it.


Next project......TURBO!! and I'll probably do a baseline for this. If so, I'll add the baseline dyno here so there will be N/A results.
 



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Jakee said:
At the same exact stock location down the pipe. Not further up, not further down. If it's 18" down the pipe considering the bends, then it needs to be 18"
down the new pipe considering the bends, correct?
Correct
 



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spindlecone said:
Unfortanatly for me, there's not an Y pipe that I know of. The closest thing I found was this and I'm not sure about it....

partdetail.asp
 






Jakee said:
Unfortanatly for me, there's not an Y pipe that I know of. The closest thing I found was this and I'm not sure about it....

partdetail.asp

oops

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Don't think your going to find one jakee, unless you get one custom fabbed.
random-tec makes them for us.
The whole idea is to just lose the two front cats (and for you tree huggers, I pass kali smog no problemo without them) Keep on keepin on Jakee
 






this is my new favorite thread

Spindle...removing the two rear cats...does that do anything for sound? Also, cant I just cut them out and replace them with pipe on stock or use O2 simulators?
 






Afboy143 said:
this is my new favorite thread

Spindle...removing the two rear cats...does that do anything for sound? Also, cant I just cut them out and replace them with pipe on stock or use O2 simulators?
you can do that and use sims, no problem, but is not good for the air quality we breath.
 






The Mac intake went on. All in all I like it although the fit was just horrible. It just barely fit with the MAF housing I used. Looks like I'll be putting a breather on the crankcase breather tube cuss that didn't fit too well either. Pics tomorrow.
 






Jakee said:
The Mac intake went on. All in all I like it although the fit was just horrible. It just barely fit with the MAF housing I used. Looks like I'll be putting a breather on the crankcase breather tube cuss that didn't fit too well either. Pics tomorrow.
Please excuse the dirt.
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I currently have a sohc motor that I am experimenting with. The heads are at the machine shop right now. THey are being ported/polished, installing larger valves and regrinding the cams. Since the stock compression is already over 9 I am basically just going to make the bottom end stronger. I have not decided if I am going to supercharge this or not. Since the compression is already up there I may increase injectors and reprogram. I have basically done all of things you guys are discussing. Never did a dyno run but could cetainly tell a difference. The new motor will be dyno tuned before going in the explorer. We are shooting for 350 at the crank. hopefully we can hit it, should be interesting
 






Jakee, the intake looks cool! Very shiney!

What is the blue hose/wire that goes above the heater blower and across the firewall?

Al
 












heyok said:
Jakee, the intake looks cool! Very shiney!

What is the blue hose/wire that goes above the heater blower and across the firewall?

Al

That's just my supercharged window washer line. It's cheap silicone tubing that looks good but will cause you problems whn near heat. I'll replace it sometime...
 






donaldthacker said:
I currently have a sohc motor that I am experimenting with. The heads are at the machine shop right now. THey are being ported/polished, installing larger valves and regrinding the cams. Since the stock compression is already over 9 I am basically just going to make the bottom end stronger. I have not decided if I am going to supercharge this or not. Since the compression is already up there I may increase injectors and reprogram. I have basically done all of things you guys are discussing. Never did a dyno run but could cetainly tell a difference. The new motor will be dyno tuned before going in the explorer. We are shooting for 350 at the crank. hopefully we can hit it, should be interesting

350 @ the crank N/A?
 






My secret weapon to accomplish my goal was the stage3 heads and regrind cams that supersixmotor sports offers for the 4.0 SOHC. But, that's a long ways away. I still have a bunch more to do before then.

I'm not sure about supercharging and turboing the 4.0 anymore. Is there anyone on here that has done this and the motor is still in one pc?
 












Alot of people have used the EE SC, 95 % of them have trashed there engines, post haste.
you need to work within the peramiters of your intire drivetrain.
you can run 40/50 RWHP, over OEM, in OEM form, thats about it, or you will start to distroy things
 






Jakee said:
350 @ the crank N/A?


Hehehehe. I would like to see that, especially for not bumping the compression up. Good luck man. I wish you the best in your endeavors.
 






rocket 5979 said:
Hehehehe. I would like to see that, especially for not bumping the compression up. Good luck man. I wish you the best in your endeavors.

I would too! I'm just wanting over 210 RWHP so that would be around 280 @ the crank?
 






spindlecone said:
Alot of people have used the EE SC, 95 % of them have trashed there engines, post haste.
you need to work within the peramiters of your intire drivetrain.
you can run 40/50 RWHP, over OEM, in OEM form, thats about it, or you will start to distroy things

I've read that the 4.0 is in question for forced induction. Mainly because of how many water passages there are making the motor "Weak".
 



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Jakee said:
I would too! I'm just wanting over 210 RWHP so that would be around 280 @ the crank?
More like 250
 






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