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Bkennedy's SAS and Rebuild Thread

Discussion in 'Offroad Projects' started by BKennedy, June 4, 2013.

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      10 days on the Mojave Road will be awesome. I hope to make it down there one of these years.
       
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      Yeah that's a long Mojave trip.
       
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      Sorry, I typed the dates wrong. Its 02/26 to 03/02. Five days. Pack up the Ranger and head on down, Matt.
       
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      I wish I could. I will be working. Maybe next year with some advance notice.
       
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      That should be a great trip. I did the Mojave Trail over a weekend with my dad when I was 12 or so.
       
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      This will be the second time we have done the trail. Last time was in 2014, right after I finished the SAS. Drove the last half of the trail with new, but blown, FOA coil overs.
       
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      I decided I need to sleeve the bolt holes to make up for the loss of material and added weight. This is my problem; I keep making simple projects complicated. I spent some time on the tables. Got one in place and realized there is not enough clearance between the body and bumper for the stops I had in mind. Came up with a newer, more complicated, but more stable rest for the tables. Should be getting to that early next week.

      I have a bunch of stuff going on lately; house has termites requiring spot treatment and wood repair. I am doing the wood myself because the exterminators want stupid money. RV is having electrical issues with the whole house inverter system. Its dead. I am letting it sit for a few days with all the power to it disconnected to see if its a logic or physical issue. If its a logic issue , it should reboot and be fine. and....I need to finish what I started with the Explorer before the 26th.
       
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      No such thing as a simple project. It's just the normal project blues. You'll get it, and it will be the usual good work that you do.
       
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      RV inverter/charger had a logic issue. The complete reboot seems to be working as it is functioning as it should. Its charging the coach batteries nicely, and power to all the outlets has been restored.
       
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      Make sure the inverter has good ventilation to prevent over heating.
       
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      It vents into the main storage area under the coach. It runs down the center between the front and rear wheels, and is a pass through for about half of it. Plenty of room. Inverter never seems to get hot.
       
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      Got the gas can holders sleeved and finished, just need paint. Worked on the tables some more. I have the passenger side mounted and the driver side ready to be mounted. Should be finished up by tomorrow. I would have been done today if my neighbor's rotten wood gates hadn't blown down with the high winds we are having today. Spent an hour helping her secure them until her handyman can come over and replace.

      Sleeved stuff.
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      Can holders
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      I got the gas can holders and the tables all finished today. Not sure if I am going to like the tables. They don't take up any storage space, but to make them as sturdy as I wanted, I needed to get fancy with the rests. Here is what I came up with;
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      The bolt is screwed into a weld nut. It takes about a minute to set up both tables. Its not the setup time I don't like, its the fact that they are steel and will flex and be noisier than the wood table I had before. I am also not sure I like they way they look back there. With both of them, I am only gaining about 15" of work space from the old table because of space limitations on the bumper. I might go back to the old wood table that is much longer, and add a second, narrow table for the other side. I can figure out a better way to secure them in the Explorer when I add the shelf/raised floor for extra storage. The fold down tables are neat, and kind of cool, but I am just not feeling as good about them as I thought I would. I need to see how it goes on this trip and decide when I get back. If I don't like them, it should take me about 30 minutes to undo what took me two days to do.

      More pictures.

      Folded down
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      For reference, my Coleman double burner camp stove fits on one with about an inch left over all the way around. Obviously, I am not using it on the side with ten gallons of gasoline a few inches away.

      Folded up
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      I didn't get a picture, but they are very secure when folded up. I used the bump stops I have mounted to the back of the tire and gas can carriers as fasteners. You can see the location of the gas carrier bump at the top of the triangle shaped main support. I unscrew the bump, fold the table up, and screw the bump back into the carrier.

      Tables folded and extra gas carrier added
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      I really like how the gas can carrier came out. It takes me about five minutes to add or remove the extra can, depending upon what mission type the Explorer is undertaking. I might make another one for a water jug, but the six gallon one I have fits nicely behind the passenger seat. The cage holds it in tight against the back seat, and I can tilt it out the R/R door to get water.

      Added a few gussets to the bottom of the triangle support, even though I used to have two cans on that same mount for several years with no issues. I figured, what the heck, more triangulation..
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      They look good. Now for the shake-down run.
       
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      This is more than a shake down run for the additions; its for the entire rig. I have driven it about a 100 miles around town and towed it to one Truckhaven trip where I put maybe 20 dirt miles on it since the rebuild. The first leg of this trip is a little over 300 miles of interstate. Then about 200 miles of dirt because of all the side trips we end up taking, and then 200 miles of interstate home.

      I took this same trip right after completing the SAS. Seems to be a pattern with me.
       
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      That's gonna be a great trip.
       
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      Looks good Brian. Wish I could be joining you on the trip.
       
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      Wish you were too. Its going to be cold out there next week. Might skip Caruther's Canyon. Its about 2,000 feet higher in elevation than the rest of the trail, up into the New York Mountains. Last time we were out there it was 80-90 during the day and the higher elevation was a welcome relief from the heat.

      You remember where I got the idea for the fold-down tables? The old guys who were at Coyote Lake and the mini-bar on the back of the Jeep? That was it.
       
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      Mojave Trail trip went great. I will post up a new thread in a few days. I am working some long hours the next two days.
       
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      :dpchug: Yours is still my favorite rig!
       
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      The tables and gas can modifications worked very well. So well, that I am thinking of overlooking the way the tables look when folded up. I am going to trim about an inch off the outside edge to move them in slightly. I think that will help them blend in with the tire / gas can carriers and get them farther away from the tail lamps. I brought along a few pieces of the grip shelf liner to put on top of the tables, and that worked very well to keep stuff in place, and reduce the metal on metal noises.
      Tables in use
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      Yes, it was a cold night. Which brings up another issue. The transmission seems to be working fairly well; It shifts nice, overdrive is keeping engine RPM around 2000 at 65 MPH. Except for the pressures jumping around when manually down shifted into second or first (about 200 PSI), and the temps gradually going up to about 200* while going up a long off-road grade. After I crested the grade, we took a sight-seeing break and I let the transmission idle in park for about ten minutes, which brought the temp back down. On the highway, the temps rarely got up to 170*, and were usually around 120*. The temps are a little low, but the weather was colder than normal. From what I understand about the 700R4, the temps and pressures are not above its operating range. I think I am going to get it to the shop and just let Eldon go through it for me.
       
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      Love the fold down tables:thumbsup:

      How did the support bolt work out? You could always do a fold out support like they do on fold down leafs on a kitchen/bistro table
       
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      The support worked out better than I expected. Hardly any movement in the tables, and they are interchangeable so I don't have to figure out which table they go with. I thought about getting a fold down support like the one in the RV, but there is less than a inch clearance between the bumper and the rear hatch.

      Edit: The fold down table supports actually seem to be for a table that folds up into place, which would not work.
       
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