Betty's "I want to be a mule" progress log thread

[Turdle]

Not really feeling it but abs light means new spinny thingys for Betty

 

[CDW6212R]

Nice, and did Ford use these hubs on some later models, the G2MZ part number prefix?

 

[Turdle]

Nice, and did Ford use these hubs on some later models, the G2MZ part number prefix?

I'm not sure Don, I sent a pm to levitown Ford parts telling them what I needed, for a price quote. As you can see though, NHUB-22 is a good search number.


On side now the Betty is hurt, passenger side mebotech ttx lower ball joint is showing up down movement using huge screwdriver as prying tool. Fudgers given while looking for my acdelco trail spare.


Why did it let go so early? Maybe 3000 miles tops since changing them.

Never as scheduled. Driver hub installed though.

 

[traveler]

Yea, I need to do lower ball joints as well. They aren't loose, at least the alignment guy didn't call me on them (he did tell me to replace the inner tie rods however) but when I was replacing the ITRs I noticed a shredded boot on the drivers side LBJ. You're right Jon, if its not one thing its another! On the bright side, I'm getting darned good at replacing front end parts!

 

[donalds]

Yea, I need to do lower ball joints as well. They aren't loose, at least the alignment guy didn't call me on them (he did tell me to replace the inner tie rods however) but when I was replacing the ITRs I noticed a shredded boot on the drivers side LBJ. You're right Jon, if its not one thing its another! On the bright side, I'm getting darned good at replacing front end parts!

I Literally just ordered ball joint boots silicone ones lol

 

[410Fortune]

The Mevotec ttx parts I’m sorry I ever installed them honestly they appear good on paper but have not held up well at all on explorer ranger and excursion
Never again will I go
Mevotec
Right up there with Detroit axle
Ball joint needs to be more then “pretty”

 

[Fix4Dirt]

The Mevotec ttx parts I’m sorry I ever installed them honestly they appear good on paper but have not held up well at all on explorer ranger and excursion
Never again will I go
Mevotec
Right up there with Detroit axle
Ball joint needs to be more then “pretty”

interesting!!!!! have mevotech outer tie rods they are holding up good! still have a set of ES boots too

 

[Turdle]

The Mevotec ttx parts I’m sorry I ever installed them honestly they appear good on paper but have not held up well at all on explorer ranger and excursion
Never again will I go
Mevotec
Right up there with Detroit axle
Ball joint needs to be more then “pretty”

Yeah, but now I got one blue boot, all the others are lime green . What do I do about that

 

[CDW6212R]

I'm not sure Don, I sent a pm to levitown Ford parts telling them what I needed, for a price quote. As you can see though, NHUB-22 is a good search number.


On side now the Betty is hurt, passenger side mebotech ttx lower ball joint is showing up down movement using huge screwdriver as prying tool. Fudgers given while looking for my acdelco trail spare.


Why did it let go so early? Maybe 3000 miles tops since changing them.

Never as scheduled. Driver hub installed though.

I hope your lower BJ swap goes well, I have only done a pair of those on my 99. I have the TTX UCA's on my last two 98's, so far the mileage isn't enough to decide if they are low quality. The LCA is the critical one, I hope that bad one you have is a one of a kind.

 

[CDW6212R]

I Literally just ordered ball joint boots silicone ones lol

Which BJ boots did you order? I bought the two sizes mentioned a few years ago, and the one was too big for the upper BJ.

 

[Turdle]

I hope your lower BJ swap goes well, I have only done a pair of those on my 99. I have the TTX UCA's on my last two 98's, so far the mileage isn't enough to decide if they are low quality. The LCA is the critical one, I hope that bad one you have is a one of a kind.

Ball joint swap went very well, because I used anti seize when I installed the ttx bj.

Fingers crossed on driver lbj holding up.

Another question,might need to ask in coilovers thread. Shock bearings. Man these things dry out and make some noise. Anybody have a preferred bearing to use? I used qa1 com8t 102pk does that sound right? The ones in my shocks now are 1 1/2 inch wide bolt sleeve, but new ones just arrived are only 1" wide.

What did I miss?

 

[Turdle]

QA1 COM8-106PK Shock Bearing

www.speedwaymotors.com

That. A digit off fml. Gotta reorder

 

[CDW6212R]

Ball joint swap went very well, because I used anti seize when I installed the ttx bj.

Fingers crossed on driver lbj holding up.

Another question,might need to ask in coilovers thread. Shock bearings. Man these things dry out and make some noise. Anybody have a preferred bearing to use? I used qa1 com8t 102pk does that sound right? The ones in my shocks now are 1 1/2 inch wide bolt sleeve, but new ones just arrived are only 1" wide.

What did I miss?

Do you think they are making noise from wear, or just drying out and then it begins? I wonder if a rubber cover could be fitted, like the steering shaft joints that do great until the stock boot tears away.

 

[Turdle]

I'm going to use the extra 1/2 " space on these bearings. Going with a 3/8 spacer on one side of shock end, 1/8 " spacer on other side. This will straighten the angle a tad and relieve some stress on the bearings. I hope.

 

[Turdle]

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[410Fortune]

North Idaho eats spherical bearings, I am replacing them every 1-2 years SUCKS
The kings have held up the best
Our Polaris machine has COM bearings top bottom front and back they go out every season!!!!!!!!!!!
The fine silt dust and moisture just kills them in short order.
I am working on making some boots and covers to keep them lubed and debris free

 

[gmanpaint]

I only ever had issues when I installed the QA1 nylon bearings they came with. I replaced them with their steel bearings, and used the crap out of them for many years, all over the country, and in a variety of conditions. Weird they went bad for you, but stuff happens.

I was happy to see your Motorcraft Hubs. I had thought they was discontinued, and not available any longer. Good to know they can be bought still. Are they made in USA or China?
I am not happy to hear about the TTX LBJ's. I bought a set when they came out, but never installed them because they wasn't around long enough to get any "Real" reviews after use. I kept them as trail spares in the rig. BUT... I just installed one in the Dr side a few months ago, when I rebuilt the LCA. It has very little miles, and no off road use on it yet. The reviews here, makes me not want to install the other side now, and worry about the Dr side installed. LOL

 

[Turdle]

@gmanpaint the spherical bearings were working I guess, it's just that they made quite a bit of noise, every time the temps dropped from whatever they were. Sure a can of spray lube killed it for a bit but the issue usually happened early am when Im trying to get somewhere.

It is a very embarrassing sound also. Not like I'm in the habit of shock bearing maintenance every morning but I guess I need to add it to the morning chores

 

[CDW6212R]

If your goals go over 5800 rpms at all, be sure to get 7/16 studs in heads for rocker mounts. Pedestal mounts will fail if pressed past that just a few times.

Thankfully most new aftermarket heads do come with 7/16" studs now. The old standard was 3/8" studs, which are very common in older heads. I had a set of pedestal mount rockers on my 351W Crown Vic, but the camshaft lost a lobe at 15k miles. I didn't like those rockers, using 5/16" bolts to go into the stock 5/16" thread holes was scary to me. I never ran it much rpm, an AOD shifting below 5000rpm I'm sure. I think even many low end brand heads now tout having 7/16" rocker studs.

The problem is that stud mount roller rockers stress the rocker studs terribly, especially at higher rpm. They are kind of okay for rpm's kept below 5-5500 I think, but still worrisome. I'm planning to find shaft mount rockers for my 347 to go in my Lincoln, those should last forever.

 

[Turdle]

Thankfully most new aftermarket heads do come with 7/16" studs now. The old standard was 3/8" studs, which are very common in older heads. I had a set of pedestal mount rockers on my 351W Crown Vic, but the camshaft lost a lobe at 15k miles. I didn't like those rockers, using 5/16" bolts to go into the stock 5/16" thread holes was scary to me. I never ran it much rpm, an AOD shifting below 5000rpm I'm sure. I think even many low end brand heads now tout having 7/16" rocker studs.

The problem is that stud mount roller rockers stress the rocker studs terribly, especially at higher rpm. They are kind of okay for rpm's kept below 5-5500 I think, but still worrisome. I'm planning to find shaft mount rockers for my 347 to go in my Lincoln, those should last forever.

That got put In here by mistake, meant for @gmanpaint black hole thread. Idunno how it got in here. Then I saw the head specs listed and saw it was covered . Thanks Don.