Barack Obama linked 2nd gen. SAS

[sn0border88]

Thats avatar material right there.

BTW, whats with the hood?

And I NEED to see this thing in action some time, once me and linds finish our SAS's and rookie finishes the zuk, we have to get out on some harder stuff.

 

[JoshC]

IZ, dude you're killing us SASer's, we can't compete with that! Very nice man

 

[Blee1099]

I suspect that red strap is for a falling hood..

 

[lifeguard379]

Wow looks good.

 

[Spas]

GOOD GRIEF, Iz!! Yeah... I uhh...I definitely take back that rTi challenge :notworthy

Oh, and Ben-

I only get lost because of all the distractions!

 

[Blee1099]

GOOD GRIEF, Iz!! Yeah... I uhh...I definitely take back that rTi challenge :notworthy

Oh, and Ben-

I only get lost because of all the distractions!

Being distracted by shiny metal object again?

 

[IZwack]

BTW, whats with the hood?

Its good practice to keep the hood up while winching -- in case something snaps, the hood is there to stop whatever is flying instead of the glass/forehead. Even though I'm using the synthetic rope, it still has a hook at the other end so -- just being ultra cautious

IZ, dude you're killing us SASer's, we can't compete with that! Very nice man

Thanks but I'm merely a sitting on the shoulders of giants .. my SAS build has been based on other SAS builds on this forum -- and some very helpful tips and suggestions from many.

I suspect that red strap is for a falling hood..

Yeah the strap is to hold up the hood cauz the gas-lifter shock thingies are no longer working.

GOOD GRIEF, Iz!! Yeah... I uhh...I definitely take back that rTi challenge

I saw the RTI at Staging Area 1 (i think) on the way in the first day but I forgot to come back to it

 

[TheRookie]

There is an RTI ramp in the entrance parking area. As you come in its at the bottom left corner of the parking area. If i had the metal I would build one but cant justify spending that much for steel.

 

[Joe93]

So are you pleased with the Air shox? Hows the on road drive with them? Ive been thinking about these for the BII for a while.

 

[IZwack]

So are you pleased with the Air shox? Hows the on road drive with them? Ive been thinking about these for the BII for a while.

I'm pleased with the air shocks but I can't really compare them to the other devices (coils, coil-overs) because I've never ran the other setups.

On the road, it drives fine -- just dont make fast sharp turns

 

[21robbie21]

IZwack is the ****

 

[IZwack]

IZwack is the ****

IZwack is not
Obama is

 

[glfredrick]

Just got done reading the entire post -- great build and thanks for the inspiration. One of these days I'll get my own SAS done...

About the tire balance thing... Both of my kiddos work at a local shop -- in fact, my oldest just bought into a shop as part owner -- and from their experience in mounting 20 + sets of big x huge off-road tires a week, the junk inside the tires for balance JUST DOES NOT WORK.

Go somewhere that actually understands off-road tires, and has the equipment to deal with them and get them balanced with external weights.

That will solve about 90% of your 50 mph issue.

We've cleaned so much gunk out of tires from guys reading posts on-line that say that the junk is supposed to balance the tires that we collect it in 5 gallon buckets -- from golf balls, to bb's, to air shot, to lead shot, to ball bearings, to tennis balls, to whatever the mind can get around, we've taken it out of tires. Most are shredded on the inside from all the friction -- NONE ever ran down the road without humping all over the place. All (that survived being filled with junk) ran nicely after a decent balance.

We generally use stick-on weights as near the center hub as is possible. If brakes or something are problematic, we use the regular clamp on weights, surrounded by a bead of silicone to make sure they stay there.

 

[410Fortune]

glfresrick I used the equal balance powder in my 33" MT's with great results
I run the Equal in addition to the static balacing and I noticed the differece right away.
35K miles later when the MT's wore out I replaced them, the Equal powder was still in power form, none of it stuck to the tire. Also remember I air down to 10 psi and back up to 32 psi ALOT, many times using my under hood air compressor (ARB) and there is no moisture collector on that compressor, however since it is such a dry climate here in CO maybe that contributed to the powder staying powder?

All I can tell you is the Equal powder worked for me! My shimmy went away, and noticed after wheeling and getting the tires packed with mud and or snow the balance was still better then usual once the tires were packed with junk

I would not rely on just the powder to do the entire balance, especially since some of the MT's I run and wheels take ALOT of weights to get the static balance to zero

 

[glfredrick]

The way it is supposed to work, is that the stuff inside the tires finds the spot where the weight is needed, then migrates there under spin.

In actuality, I've seen just the opposite happen. The stuff in the tire just heads to one spot and it is as if you are swinging a bucket on a rope... All the weight is on one side and it will almost ruin a set of shocks with one freeway venture.

I've not run the powder - or seen anyone that has, it may, in limited quantities, do something, and I trust that you are seeing results, but I'd still not recommend that people run stuff IN their tires. I've just been at it for far too long, and have seen WAY too many bad balance jobs. We tried all that stuff WAY back in the early 70s when big tires first hit the market, and there wasn't a machine that could do anything with them... That was BEFORE spin balancers, so I've been doing it for a LONG time...

 

[JoshC]

To add to this discussion, we have to flat beds at the warehouse both 4wd, F450 and F550. Both are around 10,000 lbs. They have the large rims, 22's i think, but we run retreads because it is cheaper and we put the powder in them. I use to drive the 450 and it would beat you to death. The 550 runs the same retreads and i'm not 100% sure if they put the powder in them or regular weights, but it rides great. It is also an 06 with coils.

 

['97 V8]

22.5 inch 10 bolt rims are on the f-550.

 

[JoshC]

same on the 450 and i know they are ungodly heavy!

 

[IZwack]

Go somewhere that actually understands off-road tires, and has the equipment to deal with them and get them balanced with external weights.
That will solve about 90% of your 50 mph issue..

Thanks -- I'll probably do that after I rebuild the front axle and fix a few problems.

 

[IZwack]

I'm off next week so this is what I have planned

Re-doing the panhard mount on the chassis end:

Also, one of the problems I was having before was I used a hole saw to cut the 1" hole for the 1" heim on the axle end. Obviously a hole saw is not very accurate at cutting exact diameter holes so to get around this problem, I'm going to use a hi-misalignment bushing to bring the hole down to 5/8" - which I can be drilled easily and with good accuracy. And also I'm going to redo the panhard-mount on the axle. This are the misalignment bushings I bought from BallisticFabrication

Another problem was I used an el-cheapo heim joint on the axle and of the panhard. So I'm going to replace that with one of better quality -- which arrived today.