5.0 2to4wd 4406 and tons

[Scotts96sploder]

So I got on the chat with Yukon, and the guy wouldn’t specifically answer my question, but he did say this. (Pics)
I also realized I was overthinking this. The 10.25 is 1/4” smaller, which mean the pinion gear teeth a shorter and need to move in .125 to make up the difference. Duh. Also just looking at the difference in the pinions, the 10.25 loses .125 in teeth with a longer bearing surface.
So from what I gathered from this guy, Yukon sells a 10.5 kit with a .120 spacer, (they don’t sell just the spacer) or you need to run 10.25 bearings. So I ordered the 10.25 inner bearing and race. I’ll let yall know if that solves the problem.

 

[Scotts96sploder]

First test drive happened today!

Steering is a little wonky, need to check the tow, but no wobbles up to about 35ish. Still need to adjust the Speedo so not sure. Lots of pops and clunks, I’m hoping that’s everything just kinda settling in. I did have to tighten the front U-bolts after. Definitely could have a caster problem, still haven’t been able to check it on a level surface.

For the gears, the 10.25 inner pinion bearing is the difference between the two, which makes perfect sense when you think about it. It’s not quite a peppy as I thought it would be with the 5.38s, it definitely could be lower, but can’t with this front axle. Good enough though! Not entirely sure the grizzly is unlocking around corners, it doesn’t chirp but I can definitely hear the tires dig. Could be I’ve just never had tires like this before and I’m not used to it.

Cobbled together different rear springs, was going to do a pseudo military wrap but I figured out it would be more work than I wanted to do, and I wanted to drive, so I just cut the worn out explorer spring short of the eye and made an amalgamation of explorer/ranger spring with no helper. It’s about 1-3/4” short in the back so I’m going to put the helpers in it. On the note of being in a hurrry I just used the old shocks, I’ll be welding the different mounts and using the other longer shocks soon. The big thing to me is IT FIXED THE LEAN! Very happy about that.

I’m going to have to make a hyme joint pitman arm, I drove it over a tall curb and it hit the spring lol

I didn’t feel a bunch of axle wrap but I’m pretty sure I’ll have it, so that needs to get made, think I’ll have to relocate the muffler for that.

Big chunks are done I’m so stoked! Long way to go yet. Crossmember and front drive shaft need to happen, but now I can move it around to get the 65 in this spot and drop a motor in it. I think I’ll used the winch! Lol

 

[allmyEXes]

What kind of '65?

 

[Scotts96sploder]

@allmyEXes f250 2wd auto with a 390 I think. My dad had the engine rebuild and was putting it in before he died. It’s in there, no dress, not even on the mounts. It’s been sitting open like that in FL humidity for a long time so I’m just gonna fill it with diesel and ATF, dress it up and see what happens.

 

[allmyEXes]

@Scotts96sploder Being a F-250 and the storage box low in the bedside makes me think that it is a "Camper Special". The kind of truck that
an aftermarket camper would slide up in the bed, then secured somehow. That's perfect for towing a car trailer.
I have a few '60s 390 bits if you need a part or two.

Ebay poster

 

[410Fortune]

very very nice
"Houston, we need a sawzall"

 

[Josh P]

@allmyEXes f250 2wd auto with a 390 I think. My dad had the engine rebuild and was putting it in before he died. It’s in there, no dress, not even on the mounts. It’s been sitting open like that in FL humidity for a long time so I’m just gonna fill it with diesel and ATF, dress it up and see what happens.

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I like this truck, appears to have no rust.

 

[Scotts96sploder]

Found this mounty while out on a test drive.

So far everything is working, speedo is even kind of close without making adjustments. Brakes are a little soft for my liking, might do that 2500 master upgrade when I delete the abs. Steering is better after a string alignment and adding some toe. I checked the caster on a flatter surface and found that I may actually have a twisted axle because I’m getting 7° and 5° with some variance depending on where I check it. Since I already welded the tubes I’m just going to add some 2.5 shims and see what happens. Been up to 45 with no wobble, but it does like to wonder, definitely have to stay on the steering the whole time, but 2 finger steering.

The 65 might be some kind of camper thing, it’s got a low gear from the factory like 4.10 or maybe 4.88 in what looks like a Dana 60. Can definitely haul a heavy load, but you ain’t getting there quick. Also it does have some rust in the seam of the roof skin, but that’s all I saw so far.

 

[Scotts96sploder]

Fixed the fuel gauge finally! Never been happier to see an empty fuel tank.
Ran this thing out of gas on the last test drive, didn’t know and parked it facing downhill. Had to push it around uphill to get it to crank and throwing so stale lawnmower gas in there. I figured since the tank was empty it was a good time to drop the tank and figure this out.
Luckily it was just an open ground where the body of the float/wiper attaches to the sending unit. Obviously the Chinese guy rounded out the fastener on the way in and didn’t get it tight. I just swapped it out for the bottom one and it works. So that’s something to check if you’re having a similar issue.
Throwing some 2.5° shims in the front end tomorrow, hopefully that fixes the pull on the steering. I really want to be able to get on the highway with this thing.
I wanted to ask if there was any way to bypass the ABS warnings and chimes? They go away after about 30 seconds but it’s annoying. I’m not sure why they started after the swap, the fuse has been pulled and the ABS has never worked since I’ve had it. I didn’t think removing the sensors would make it angry but it does I guess.

 

[Scotts96sploder]

Who knows about mirror compatibility?

As you can see, that tiny little mirror is now 5’ off the ground(9’ tall trailer for comparison) I can’t see anything when backing this up. Been opening the door to line it up because I need to replace window regulators. That’s fine by itself but I do plan a pulling a small trailer around.

I’ve seen on here people swap expedition mirrors into 3rd gens, and I see 1st/2nd gen is pretty much bolt up. I’m thinking larger like an F250 mirror, which apparently are interchangeable from something like 99-present. Does anyone know if anything like that will bolt up? I can figure out the wiring or maybe even make my own control circuits.

 

[410Fortune]

Well…
Not sure if any mirrors that are a direct bolt on
It’s funny you bring up mirrors because I just now modified the crap out of some for my sport trac

06+ ranger mirrors on a sport trac base… same base as your sploder
06-11 ranger mirrors are better looking imo and much larger way more glass and vision. Can also add heat and signals
On eddies rig I. Also installed side cameras for a Birds Eye system

I’m calling this the 410customs square
Mirror mod
Details in my sport trac thread

 

[Josh P]

When a Phillips screw strips, I'll try a square drive bit. I've noticed some Phillips screws have a square center out of the box.

 

[410Fortune]

The abs light and warning chime is pretty much a function of the instrument cluster
I am sure there is a diode you can put in place of the bulb to fool the system into thinking the bulb
Is not lit
I personally just black out the light behind the bulb on the cluster side (black tape stuffed in there with some black paint first) and if that chime happens… well I’ve been known to stick a screwdriver through
That peizio siren

 

[Scotts96sploder]

The abs light and warning chime is pretty much a function of the instrument cluster
I am sure there is a diode you can put in place of the bulb to fool the system into thinking the bulb
Is not lit
I personally just black out the light behind the bulb on the cluster side (black tape stuffed in there with some black paint first) and if that chime happens… well I’ve been known to stick a screwdriver through
That peizio siren

I’m crying lol

 

[Scotts96sploder]

Well…
Not sure if any mirrors that are a direct bolt on
It’s funny you bring up mirrors because I just now modified the crap out of some for my sport trac

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06+ ranger mirrors on a sport trac base… same base as your sploder
06-11 ranger mirrors are better looking imo and much larger way more glass and vision. Can also add heat and signals
On eddies rig I. Also installed side cameras for a Birds Eye system

I’m calling this the 410customs square
Mirror mod
Details in my sport trac thread

I’m gonna check this out, thanks!

 

[Scotts96sploder]

Working on fixing the bump steer.
Bought a used crossover knuckle from a 16” lifted excursion, and have been playing with the links I already built trying to reuse them for now.
I’ve had this pitman arm off a 99 E250 laying around I thought I couldn’t use, but it turns out that it seems to solve a lot of clearance issues! I figure as long as the steer stops on the knuckle hits before the pitman arm and drag link line up, that will be ok. NOT IDEAL, but ok lol.

I need the Ford nerd knowledge though. Do any of you know if I can find a similar pitman arm but about 1” longer? Just needs to have this 45° double spline. If not I’m about to make another kustom arm.

 

[Scotts96sploder]

Ok crossover steering, reusing the original links is installed and bump steer is effectively eliminated! In fact i was steering with one hand the whole time on the test drive.
To make it fit I had to shorten the lower rad hose, the one to the oil cooler, and now ofc it leaks. I’m not going to fix it, I’m going to delete the cooler. I have a part number for a rad hose, does anyone have a part number for the adapter to run the 515xx something filter directly on the block?

 

[Turdle]

Pardon Our Interruption...

 

[Scotts96sploder]

Pardon Our Interruption...

No no, I’m deleting that. Filter directly to the block, there is an adapter I just can’t find it.

 

[Turdle]

That's it, to clear accessories. No cooler hoses